Re: Hot Water from Superheat of GWHP

"Marshall Dudley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> TURTLE wrote:
>
> > "Marshall Dudley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> > This is Turtle.
> >
> > What you have just told us is You , Your son , the hvac installer , and
the
> > plumber don't have the reading skills to read the installation
instruction
> > and install it correctly.
>
> Nope, I installed it properly, that is not an issue. I simply asked if it
was
> working right, and as it turns out is is in spec. It just did not do as
well as
> I had hoped.

As it appears that this is the first time you have done this, how do you
*know* that it was installed properly?? How do you *know* that its working
right?? How do you *know* its working in spec?? Have you done a finite
quantitative analsys of the system(s)?? What instruments were used?? What
readings were taken and logged??

> The HVAC company said they do not do plumbing and that has nothing to do
with
> reading.

My dentist doesn't do proctology either.

> The electrician does not do plumbing either, it has to do with their
> area of expertise and licensing requirements.

True

> Now as far as the first plumber
> he hired to do the job, I do have suspicions he might not have been able
to
> read, but that is beside the point.

It it?? would it be because he was the lowest bidder??

> > Until you can get someone that can read the
> > installation instructions , Your dead in the water till this happens.
Your
> > asking for use over the internet to pull a rabbit out of the hat and
make it
> > work is really not possible .
> >
>
> You are right, it will not perform beyond it's specs. I did not expect it
to, I
> just wanted to know if it was working as it was suppose to, and it is as
it
> turns out.

Are you sure??

> > You need to look in the yellow pages to find a hvac installer company
that
> > the tech's can read and call them to finish up the project.
> >
> > One hint before I go. The heat that you get from the hvac system is only
> > supplimental heat and 99% of the time it will never heat the water up
enough
> > [ by it'self ] to take a bath. Now if the weather outside is about 90ºf
to
> > 100ºf it might heat up the water somewhat , but never to get real hot
water
> > by it'self. the big thing is the size of the tanks and getting enough of
> > heat to heat them up.
> >
>
> Finally an answer to the question to some extent.
>
> So this begs the questions.  If you have to use the gas to heat the water,
then
> when does the supplemental come in. The gas will heat it to the termostat
> setting in less than an hour, but it take hours or days for the HVAC to
heat it
> sufficiently on mild days.

This begs another question.....What has the supply house where you bought
this stuff had to say about it?? Did said supply house have somebody they
could recommend that had experience with this type of system??

> Most of the time the hot water will be at the thermostat setting when the
HVAC
> is running. So will it be raising it even higher, or doing nothing?  I can
find
> nothing about this interplay in anything I have read.  Also I still have
no idea
> what limit the HVAC heating will reach on water temperature, will it keep
adding
> heat until something gives, or will it top out, and if so, typically at
what
> temperature?  It seems that putting the two in series as the Carrier
manual
> suggested makes a lot of sense.
>
> Marshall
>
> >
> > TURTLE
>