Re: Interesting Letter-to-the-Editor

John S. Dyson wrote:
> 
> It is interesting where the 'socialist meccas' like France and
> Germany  are also having problems with their budgets, and they
> don't even do a competent job of providing for their own defense.
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They have the industrial output, they simply prefer to spend it
on luxuries as long as they can.


> If they provided for their defense, it wouldn't really make that
> much difference to their budgets, because it is the morally
> destrictive socialist programs that cost so very much!!!
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Social programs are EVIDENCE or morality, they don't DESTROY 
morality, except the stupid hidebound antisexual forms.

 
> In the US, consider that a person making $80K/yr will be paying
> approx 38% (or more) to the federal government (assuming no major
> deductions -- perhaps assuming that you have paid off your
> house as a responsible individual.)  For the state governments,
> you will pay typically 3-10% (or more) of your income.  Also,
> there are various other taxes that punish small amounts
> of success (e.g. property tax, etc.)
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Irrelevant, the Majority derives the right to tax from what it gives,
the social system that permits ownership AT ALL, when the "natural"
state is one of banditry and murder at every step! Whatever you are
taxed was NEVER actually yours in the FIRST place, and it only causes
trouble and confusion for you to even learn of it!

 
> By the time that all of the taxes are paid (for a middle income
> person), it isn't incredibly out-of-the norm to have paid 50%
> of your income!!!
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Gee, the same the poor pay in rent/tribute to the rich.

I say kill the rich who won't stop lying and claiming that they
"own" all our houses, and own your own home by Majority Democratic
fiat! WE ALL own the world, and its resources and land AND AEDIFICES
collectively as our inheritance from ALL our common ancestors! The
rich have no special right to them, they were born exactly as naked
and stupid as we were, but they were handed a socio-economic situation
that allowed them to steal for a living, rather than do HONEST work!!

 
> So, when you have problems paying your bills for a month (due
> to unforseen expenses), remember all of the irresponsible
> people who aren't taking care of their own children (or
> too willing to have children without preparing adequately.)
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People do what they must because of their circumstances of life,
over which they have NO control. There is NO free will, we are a
result of cause and effect in physics, and what we become comes
directly from our experiences. You cannot change the tiniest thing
you believe by some effort of whim/will, and you KNOW it! There is 
no such thing as "free will", it was invented to relieve the guilt
of torturers in the Spanish Inquisition, pretending that people
control what they believe, when they DON'T!! And what we do is a
direct result of what we believe! 

In short, we can change each other by the effect we can have on
each other, however unopredictable, but we cannot change OURSELVES!
It would be like lifting yourself into the air!

 
> It really isn't possible for the current wasteful government
> to provide many more services without additional damage against
> the middle income people.
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Until everyone has virtually equal property and incomes, the class
you speak of lies when it laughably calls itself "middle class"!
And when we are equal, and our taxes are equal, then the services
we get are also the same, and these services are impossible to obtain
by ourselves!


> Already, the lower income individuals
> don't pay much tax in the scheme of things.
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Nor should they, their contribution comes from the monies that the
rich steal from them and for which the rich are more taxed!!!!!


> The rich are already
> paying most of the tax bills (perhaps a little more can be
> coerced from them), 
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They are stealing it from the poor to pay it, you mean!!


> and the middle income people could probably
> be pressured a little also.  Perhaps we need to grab more money
> from the groups who really pay little or no income tax?  (Those
> who make less than $20-$30K/yr.)
> John
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Absurd, exactly because, by their thefts, the rich already steal 
that income from the poor, which is why we come after the rich 
for it!

-Steve
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