Re: Action Required: Help Suspended Animation Inc. Before November6th!

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Paul Antonik Wakfer wrote:

> William A. Noyes wrote:
> > "Paul Antonik Wakfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >>William A. Noyes wrote:
> >>
> >>>Completely freeze a monkey then after a year thaw it to
> >>>live healthy condition and then we can talk.
> >>
> >>And how many people might by then have irretrievably died when
> >>preliminary techiques leading to the proof that you are demanding would
> >>have allowed some of them to be restored to life in the future?
> >>
> >>Many of us practice potentially life extending methods which are not
> >>fully proven to work for humans, so why should we not practice
> >>cryopreservation when all else has failed to allow meaningful life to
> >>continue?
> >
> >
> > If we even had a mouse that was revived after a total freeze
> > would encourage me.
>
> What you fail to understand is that any collection of either highly
> differentiated cells or of size that cannot be reached by cryoprotectant
> diffusion only within a reasonable time frame is not currently fully
> capable of reversible cryopreservation.
> A mouse is just as differentiate as a human and large enough that
> reversibly cryopreserving it is just as hard as any other whole mammal
> including humans.
>
> > Some of those in need of heart or lung
> > transplants would surely benefit from such a method.
>
> Organs are being worked on first for that reason and because being less
> differentiated it is easier to find a cocktail of cryoprotectants which
> allows vitrification with sufficiently low toxicity for those kinds of
> cells only.
>
> >>Besides, all that Suspended Animation, Inc is asking for is to be
> >>allowed to do the research to achieve just what you require to be
> >>demonstrated. If you and others will not even allow that, then you are
> >>being totally hypocritical in your demand to see fully perfected
> >>suspended animation of a primate. If you are not being hypocritical then
> >>you will wish to help them to be so allowed.
> >
> >
> > It seems some are always trying to impose on others by
> > way of law or regulations in areas that should be free
> > to the individual's judgment and conscience. Laws
> > and regulations should be kept at a minimum.
>
> Yes, that is the whole point. I am glad to see that you agree.
>
> --Paul Wakfer
>
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   I cannot for the LIFE of me..see HOW a DEAD Body (as it
   MUST be DEAD before te pocess can be admiisteed) can
   possibly be revived at ANY time AFTER the fact..freezing or NO.
   The ONLY exception to this is that a body can be revived within
   20 minutes after being killed or dying ...even then some damage is
   done that needs amelioration over a short time to make a difference.

   Anything over 10 minutes is suspect. There IS a  "procedure"
   that Ultra Psychics and special MONKS use to gain  voluntary
   OBE abilities.  They force themselves to DIE in three increments
   up to 5 minutes each. The are revived by a STANDBY team of medics.
   After this "procedure" the individual can volunatrilay LEAVE his or
   her body without it dying...just SLEEPING yet able to commuicte
   about what is transpiring. The travelng "SOUL_SPIRIT" is also able
   to tavel at unlimited SPEED through the dimensions above that of HEAVEN
   which is the 6th dimension alone.  These people are very special. One of
   them is a lady with whom I'm very CLOSE.  She is an Astro Physicist as
well.
   (Ph.D) I have "piggy-backed" OBE-wise with her and have been astounded at
   her expertises. One f the FUN things of living!  LOL! B-0b1