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Re: Action Required: Help Suspended Animation Inc. Before November 6th!



William A. Noyes wrote:
"Paul Antonik Wakfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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William A. Noyes wrote:

Completely freeze a monkey then after a year thaw it to
live healthy condition and then we can talk.

And how many people might by then have irretrievably died when preliminary techiques leading to the proof that you are demanding would have allowed some of them to be restored to life in the future?

Many of us practice potentially life extending methods which are not
fully proven to work for humans, so why should we not practice
cryopreservation when all else has failed to allow meaningful life to
continue?


If we even had a mouse that was revived after a total freeze
would encourage me.

What you fail to understand is that any collection of either highly differentiated cells or of size that cannot be reached by cryoprotectant diffusion only within a reasonable time frame is not currently fully capable of reversible cryopreservation.
A mouse is just as differentiate as a human and large enough that reversibly cryopreserving it is just as hard as any other whole mammal including humans.


Some of those in need of heart or lung
transplants would surely benefit from such a method.

Organs are being worked on first for that reason and because being less differentiated it is easier to find a cocktail of cryoprotectants which allows vitrification with sufficiently low toxicity for those kinds of cells only.



Besides, all that Suspended Animation, Inc is asking for is to be
allowed to do the research to achieve just what you require to be
demonstrated. If you and others will not even allow that, then you are
being totally hypocritical in your demand to see fully perfected
suspended animation of a primate. If you are not being hypocritical then
you will wish to help them to be so allowed.


It seems some are always trying to impose on others by
way of law or regulations in areas that should be free
to the individual's judgment and conscience. Laws
and regulations should be kept at a minimum.

Yes, that is the whole point. I am glad to see that you agree.


--Paul Wakfer

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