Re: Abiogenesis in a lab?Re: TOBS:evolution misdirection

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 01:26:16 GMT, "jabriol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>as for evidence.. any evidence you can point to as evolution, I can use the
>same to point toward design with intent.

No you can't. Homology between similar limbs used for different purposes (bat's
wing, dolphin's flipper for example) makes no sense from the ID point of view.
Why wouldn't the IDer use a model closer to a shark's fin for a dolphin for
example. Of course it makes perfect sense in terms of common descent. Not only
does it make sense, but it actually *tells* us something about the relationship
between these species. What does ID tell us about this: the IDer did it - not
exactly helpful.

>
>therefore it is not the evidence itself. But the manipulation of the
>evidence.
>
>
>>  Period.  Aspects of evolution have been demonstrated and observed in
>> the lab and in the wild.
>
>no.. you are misleading once again. cellular evolution has been observed.
>Speciation, depending on what scientific discpline using the term has been
>viewed.
>
>what has not been observed is one lifeform evolving  from one genus to
>another.
>there seem to be a limit to change.
>

The fossil record shows otherwise. Besides, what is this limit? I know of
*nothing* in information theory that prevents the creation of new information.

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Archdeacom Levy Oates
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Basingstoke, England
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