Re: Yet another Budikkka hole: the Reptile/Mammal Colossal Hole

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> > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > look at the problem of the whale evolution... it was
speculated
> > that
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > came out of the water and return. then came along certain
> > > Mesonychids,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > one fossil in particular found in pakistan, because of this
one
> > > fossil
> > > > > ear
> > > > > > > contruction...
> > > > > > > Voila!!!! the ancetor of big blue it is..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > just like that! it is a big leap of faith here. in fact all
> > > evolution
> > > > is
> > > > > s
> > > > > > > faith oan the paleontology bible called fossils... no
different
> > than
> > > > > nutty
> > > > > > > creationist intepretation of the 6 day quickie of genesis...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let us look at your denigration of extrapolating from fossil
> > evidence.
> > > > > > Consider a single bone. A thigh-bone several feet in length, or
a
> > > tooth
> > > > > > several inches in length. Are you claiming we can not make any
> > > > > > determinations about the organism from these single bones?
> > > > >
> > > > > of course not..  what I am saying that to claim that said bone
could
> > be
> > > > > ancestral to another lifeform based on its similiarity is a leap
of
> > > faith.
> > > >
> > > > Biologists don't make "leaps of faith", they study the evidence and
> draw
> > > > conclusions. Ancestry is not determined by similarity, but by
> homology.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the drawing of a conclusion by biologist are speculation based on the
> > > evidence sometime they error. it is faith per defintion.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > it could be a totally different unrelated creature all together.
> Your
> > > > > example of the neanderthal, it was once concieved that it was part
> of
> > > > modern
> > > > > man ancestor, now science claim, it is totally unrelated human
> species
> > > >
> > > > The phrase "totally unrelated" is deceptive and flatly false.
> > Neanderthals
> > > > are very closely related to modern humans, though probably not
> > ancestral.
> > > > Nevertheless, after having found enough specimens, scientists can
> > > determine
> > > > if a tooth is human or neanderthal -- your claim to the contrary not
> > > > withstanding.
> > >
> > >
> > > I used the term unrelated, meaning not ancestral.
> >
> > Me and my cousin are related -- we have a common ancestor, my
grandfather,
> > but we aren't ancestral. When you use words this way, whether
> intentionally
> > or not, you create a deceptive message.
> >
>
> but your grandfather is not a different species of human. the point is,
the
> neanderthal was thought to be a "grandfather", to the modern human, now it
> is not.

That's right. Neaderthal is generally considered related as a cousin. The
undeniable fact is that there were hominids who walked the Earth who were
not homo sapiens.