Re: The Acid question

"Carole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > "alan jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > I live my kidneys.
> > >
> > > You may even love your kidneys, but  to say an healthy kidney
nurtralises
> > > the effect of a food's pH, is to totally miss the point. Foodstuff
still
> >  place a
> > > "dietary hydrogen (H+) load" upon the kidneys. What happens when
through
> > > a faulty life style and poor information the bulk of that load is acid
> >  forming?
> > >
> > >   "  The liver and kidneys have a limited capability to neutralise and
> > >      eliminate a certain about of acids. "
> >
> > True. However, humans evolved with a variety of diets in a variety of
areas
> > of the world. Limited does not mean that we come anywhere near the
limites
> > without normal diets.
> >
> > >   " It is estimated that the liver and kidneys can clean up about 8
units
> > >     a day.  One pound of meat can generate as much as 18 units of uric
> > >     acid.  If the liver and kidneys can only handle 8 of the 18 units
of
> >  uric
> > >     acid, who or what does the rest?  The answer, minerals.  "
> >
> > Actaully, the anwer is urine. Uric acid, urea and other wastes is why we
> > pee.
> >
> > >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=681f8n%24du0%40bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net&output=gplain
> > >
> > > http://www.healthlibrary.com/reading/ncure/chap11.htm
> >
> > This site is totally stupid. I already mentioned, the kidneys get rid of
> > excess acid in urine.
>
> That isn't strictly true. What happens in the case of gout? This is
> when a person has too much uric acid which can't be eliminated and it
> forms crystals which accumulate around the feet and cause agony in the
> sufferer.

This is a problem with excretion of a particular compound.  It has nothing
to do with the compound being an acid. The person's acid/base balance
remains intack during a gout attack.

> I don't think modern medicine really has much of an idea about
> treating this condition because I once knew a bloke who got regular
> attacks which were very debilitating, causing him to have to stay home
> with his feet up. He had been to the top rheumatic specialists in
> Australia and they prescribed a drug called butazoladene (sp?) which
> wouldn't stop an attack once it occurred, just prevented an attack.
> However the side effects were dangerous if he took too much of the
> drug.
>
> I told him about sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate tablets which he
> took a couple each day for a year and never got an attack during that
> period. Then he did an experiment and went off them and the attacks
> began to return. He ended up swearing by the cellsalts and said he
> would recommend them to any other sufferer of the condition, over the
> drugs.
>
> Sodium phosphate is known as the acid neutraliser and sodium sulphate
> removes poison charged fluids from the cells, the poison I assume is
> waste products from food metabolism.

Reallly? What makes you think this?

> > you need to provide real evidence this diet works, like peer-reviewed
> > journal articles, not stupid web sites.
>
> Bullshit. Everybody knows that conventional medicine is geared towards
> pharmaceutical drugs and denies the efficacy of foods, vitamins and
> minerals in treating conditions.

Well show us that foods, vitamins and minerals work in treating specific
conditions that the medical community does not acknowledge. You make the
claim. You back it.

> > > The kidney works well enough until it doesn't. The old adage
'prevention
> > > is better than cure' comes readily to mind. Prevention lies with the
> >  information
> > > about us and our willingness to take heed.
> >
> > Can you provide evidence that in people without known kidney disease,
too
> > much meat leads to kidney or liver damage? In people with kidney
disease, it
> > is known that limiting protein prolongs the life of the kidneys.
>
> Just open your eyes and ears to all the chronic disease in our society
> which modern medicine is at a complete loss to cure. Work it out for
> yourself - modern medicine isn't going to "spill the beans" on itself,
> is it?

Why do you except that modern medicine would have a cure for chronic
diseases? Modern medicine is pretty good at prolonging life and improving
the quality of life. For example, people with permanent heart damage (e.g.,
following a heart attack) are doing much better, in part because of better
treatment of heart attacks and heart failure. I don't remember modern
medicine ever making a claim to cure many chronic diseases.

In fact, much that medicine has been talking about involves prevention:
Don't smoke, eat well and excercising. Doing these three things will do more
to prolong the average person's life than anything else. Add vaccine to this
mix vaccines and good sanitation and clean water.

> Modern medicine is unable to cure asthma, allergies, dementia,
> arthritis, rheumatism, diabetes and so on. All chronic diseases
> resulting from faulty diets - but they won't tell you that, you figure
> it out from reading alternative health information and thinking for
> yourself.

Can you provide evidence that these are really caused by a faulty diet?
Asthma, rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune like type 1 diebetes and
allergies are a result of the body's immune system overreacting to various
triggers like pollen and other allergens.

Poor diet contributes to some types of dementia.

Poor diet and lack of excercise contributes to diabetes.

No question about it.

However, I do read alternative health information. I find it full of
unsupported conjectors and people trying to make money off of products that
don't work.

Please prove our contention that alternative health information about diet
is correct.

Jeff

> Carole
> http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/cellsalts.htm