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> WA:- > The most minimal definition of evolution is merely "a change in gene > frequencies," thus if a population can be shown to have had a change in the > content of its genome over some observable period of time, then evolution > can > be said to have occurred. > However it is very important to note that this definition explains nothing, > no > more than measuring a change in the angle of the sun during the course of a > day > explains the nature of celestial mechanics. Both are only easily > accomplished > empirical measures of readily observable physical qualities. > JE:- > The definition of evolution as "a change in gene > frequencies" does not exclude random changes in > gene freq. Thus the definition is incorrect because > it allows a _non_ testable view of evolution. BOH:- Not so, see for example Mueller et al. (1985) Genetics 110: 495-511. The specifically test changes in allozyme frequency changes to see if the changes could be caused by genetic drift (sampling error is even easier to test for). JE:- Incorrect. All random patterns, without exception, can be validly suggested to be caused by _either_ random or non random processes. This is because non random processes commonly produce random patterns but random processes can only produce random patterns, by definition. This being the case, it is logically _impossible_ to refute any claim of evolution being caused by just a random process. This is why observations of just random events are thrown out as _not significant_, within the sciences. Popper's basic requirement that views within the sciences must be testable is simply not met when just a random process is allowed to alone, be causative process a scientific theory, e.g. the theory of genetic drift is a classic example of an non testable view of evolution. John Edser Independent Researcher PO Box 266 Church Pt NSW 2105 Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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