Re: Terraforming Venus will be easier

I very much like the quote from Willard Van Orman.

BTW; if in fact I'm so incorrect on "so may levels", then how about
some specific numbers from your side of this non-paranoid
non-delusional equation that you speak of.

I seem to keep receiving loads of warm and fuzzy flak, from others
intent upon focusing nice folks away from the truth, away from the
facts and away from what's affordably obtainable.

In spite of all the testy differences, I'm still interested in the
comments and/or technical expertise of others that could, or at least
should shed some intellectual light upon what the lunar surface
environment has to offer.

Surely there's some solid data, other than Apollo, as to what the
fully solar illuminated surface is like (not speaking of the visible
light but of radiation wise), where I'd be quite interested to know
about those times of pasive solar activity when the combined direct
solar influx and resulting secondary TBI dosage is below 1 Sv/hr, as
well as when that's at the extremes of 100+ Sv/hr such as during the
last week of October 2003.

As equally of interest will become the value of the earthshine
illuminated lunar surface, as to the hourly levels of TBI dosage
imposed as a result of the galactic influx along with the reflected
and/or deflected solar influx via earthshine.

As the final nail in the coffin, I'd like to obtain a basic knowledge
and thereby understanding of what just the lunar nighttime of galactic
influx is all about, especially if we're speaking of the lunar eclips
nighttime where Earth along with its Van Allen zone is obviously
blocking and/or absorbing its fair share of solar influx.

I'm assuming that the amount of secondary radiation is going to be
somewhat directly porportional to the space between the lunar basalt
soil and instrument reading, whereas a distance of -10 cm into lose
soil should be about as activated as it gets, and of the measurement
taken at 1 meter above the surface should be measurably less.

I've come to understand that the lunar substance itself is roughly
twice as radioactive as Earth, whereas Earth substance may represent
0.01 mr/hr, the lunar substance should be somewhat twice that amount,
or 0.02 mr/hr.

Since the lunar core has been established as thermonuclear, there's
bound to be geological vains or pockets of radioactive material worthy
of becoming nuclear grade fuel, if not even weapons grade. So,
obviously there's going to be locations of the lunar soil and/or rock
being more radioactive than not.

This is where I'm trying to be nice, by not being the "all knowing "
wizard of space radiation knowledge, whereas I'll post credits to
those able and willing to suggest and/or specify whatever.

If in fact I'm half right about the enormous values that are inhearent
in establishing the lunar space elevator, and of the subsequent
gravity-well counter mass surrounding the next generation of ISS
(LSE-CM/ISS) as a moon dirt depot at ME-L1.1, then of knowing the
lunar environment is certainly an important attribute, though not
essential for the amounts of basalt I've planned as a safety surround.
The lunar SE lobby itself would be situated below 3 meters of basalt,
thus offering 1024 g/cm2 of shield density as well as thermal
stability, whereas the CM/ISS environment would be surrounded by many
additional meters in order to accommodate the necessary SE
gravity-well mass, while offering a great deal of impact resistance,
as well as for permitting the off-loading of hundreds if not thousands
of tonnes for the purpose of outfitting manned missions to wherever
with a sufficient surround of mass, of which can not be affordably
derived from Earth.

In addition to simply affording a good deal of mass for radiation and
of much needed debris shielding, the raw elements within lunar basalt
could become the fuel for the ION or EMPD engines of the future, then
the basalt itself should be the ultimate fiber, and thereby the ideal
composit of structural material for comprising whatever the task
demands.


I hear it said, that somewhere on Earth there's a fool born every
minute, whereas in America we seem to leave nothing to chance, we
educate them as fools.


Myself included because, I believed that America was all good and
right, sort of warm and fuzzy all over. I had believed that the likes
of the USSR was purely dastardly and just mean spirited with their
sole intent upon ruling America and of the entire world into their
communist ways. I was taught to trust only our government, and to
intrust that the likes of the SEC were doing their jobs, that the FBI,
NSA and CIA were supposedly on our side. I was even taught to being
respectful of all religions and above all, to respect the honesty and
integrity of all charities.

Lo and behold, life is not only unfair, its been a damn lie from the
get go. So, don't be all that surprised if I question your data as for
having ulterior motives, and/or suggest there's an ulterior agenda at
play. It seems there's hardly a topic of scientific interest that's
not been skewed into the nearest toilet by social/political agendas,
and that includes those laws of physics when folks utilize such as
working just fine and dandy upon supporting their agenda, while
denying those very same laws from supporting the competition. As
that's somewhat like how we knew all along about the French and
British agenda and of their accomplishments of intentionally downing
the Russian SST, clearly as to remove the competition at all cost,
just like we've known of the crimes of the 6-Day war was specifically
why the USS LIBERTY was nearly destroyed along with killing 39 of our
folks (in that case the hand that was feeding got seriously bit). The
current Pope knowing of how his church specifically exterminated
Cathars and of anyone associated for absolutely no moral justification
is simply more icing on the cake.

I could go back and forward in time if that's the sort of tit for tats
you're looking for, or perhaps we could focus our limited resources
upon obtainable goals that'll benefit all of humanity.

Testy lunar space radiation (342 rads/hr):
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/space-radiation-101.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/space-radiation-102.htm

Regarding my Lunar Space Elevator and/or GMDE depot:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-cm-ccm-01.htm

Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS~GASA  http://guthvenus.tripod.com