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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Just as all cultures have celebrated the cardinal points of the tropical year, the autumnal equinox, winter solstice, vernal equinox & summer solstice, ancient Romans would proclaim "Io Saturnalia!" in reference to the "Natalis Solis Invicti", meaning Birth of the Sun-Invincible, which was celebrated on the winter solstice plus or minus a day or two, depending on what epoch the Roman calendar was in. The ancient festival of light was properly deemed "birth of the Sun-God", on the first of the month of capricorn, since the Saturn-God limits Apollon- Re (the Sun-God) from falling any further down in the southern skies of winter in the northern hemi- sphere when Apollo would begin returning from his winter vacation in the land of the "hyperboreans", the mythical people who lived eternally like Adam and Even--meaning Autumn and Evening, or superior aspect of Venus, celebrated on the autumn equinox of libra, as symbolized by Venus illuminating the evening sky, hence the "Evening Star". What would become modern-day Xmas, OE Christes Maesse, comes from the Roman emperor Aurelian in 274 AD when he officially proclaimed the 25th of the tenth month, December, thenceforth to be Natalis Solis Invicti, even though the actual solstice was closer to the 21st in that epoch of the old Julian calendar. As saturnalia had been celebrated December 17 - 25th of every year since at least several centuries BC, then emperor Aurelian's decision to associate the birth of Jesus-Christ in Bethlehem with the great feast day of Saturn is actually quite commendable. Even the Mayan calendar holds the winter solstice as the cornerstone for predicting equinoctial pre- cession against stars on the caelestial firmament. That's why 13 Baktun, Friday December 21, 2012 AD, is the great new year of precession per the Mayan long-count, with the winter solstice Sun conjunct the Mayan "sacred tree", which is the apparent in- tercept of the galactic and ecliptic planes as we are viewing it from Earth, which by ancient Mayan reckoning has already repeated seven times making Dec 21 '12 the beginning of the eighth great year. The Mayan haab intercalation interval, 1508 haabs equals 1507 tropical years (C.P. Bowditch, p1906), showed the average Mayan tropical year 365.242203 mean solar days--which is very nearly exactly the modern-day average, and equals 25,626.83 tropical years per great year...about 9,360,000 solar days, so the seasons precess 1 degree every 26,000 days. Io Saturnalia! Daniel Joseph Min *Min's Astronomy Home Page On The World Wide Web: http://groups.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBP8Vs9JljD7YrHM/nEQKHCQCfcLJme3CjEInsvJk+zruHJ7Nz4lwAni8V KCSADU6Vja4Owq6R8Y7DegN8 =11uV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- On 25 Nov 2003, Nevermore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archilocus wrote: >> Actually they are pretty sure, it's just not very popular. >This holiday belongs to Charles Dickens and has been celebrated in the >Western world for just about the past 170 years since Dickens wrote "A >Christmas Carol" when everybody who read the story suddenly thought it >would be fun to actually celebrate this holiday. People who go about >whining about the need to "put Christ back in Christmas" conveniently >overlook (or simply never realized) that Christians largely ignored the >holiday for the better part of 1,800 years. ><snips>
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