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Re: Infinities in Physics: was-> Re: OT: Universe Born in Black Hole Explosion?





Kenton W. Mellott replied:
"Nick M V Salmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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[...]


but would you even notice if you were built to withstand the original
gravitational forces & temperatures on the surface of a supergiant
star..? Perhaps you'd be feeling rather stretched on the rack of tidal
forces at the same time as you were smeared out impossibly
thin..? <LOL>  Or perhaps you wouldn't notice because tidal forces,
vertical & horizontal compression plus increasing heat & time dilation
all balance out, who knows until someone tries it and I'm not
volunteering for that one. ;-)  ]


From what I can gather, anytime an object relatively approaches the speed of light, the ability of any matter to stay in one piece is greatly reduced by the fact that, what ever forces are holding it together have less time to react to what ever it runs into.

Where did this come from? Local time is the same no matter how fast you are going or accelerating. Between relativistic and nonrelavistic movement you'll see that time appears to be moving slower in the relativistic frame, but in the relativistic frame everything works as normal.

As far as what is percieved by something
inside a black hole, my understandind is that even the best theorist working
with string theory cannot get definitive answers.

String theory does not give definitive answers. It's not really given any answers at all to date.

From what I heard, all
the formulas they use start to fall apart just like the matter itself.  It
is my speculation that the inside of a black-hole effectively becomes pure
energy after a point.

1) is there any other kind of energy?


2) at what point? What happens to the mass?

3) if the mass disappears, what causes the gravity?

This is one thing that could allow one to explode again,

Again? I think you have black holes confused with something else.


especially should it become peturbed by interacting with another one
at relativistic speeds.

Everything inside a BH is relativistic. And the above sentence is very confusing.

But even short of that, it may not be inpossible
that once the mass generating material

Mass generating material?


on the shell of the black-hole can no
longer generate enough force to contain the 'pure' energy at its center it
could explode and expand perhaps very rapidly by the force released by all
the spin it had previously contained.

This is very confused. Or at least I am after reading it.


This may be one reason their is an
initial inflation in the theories of the universes creation.

I don't see any connection.


I am still
personally skeptical about the anti-gravity force theory being developed to
explain the extra expansion in the universe.

The issue is that recent supernova studies show that the the father out you look, the universe seems to be expanding faster than expected, hence the suggestion that some repulsive force might be at work.

I have to believe that their
present theory is forgetting the gaseous pressure gradient within the new
universe when they go into the theory of the whole expanding equally all
over to explain why we don't percieve a 'center' and 'perimeter'.

And what caused this pressure gradient?


[...]


I have to admit you are leaving me in the dust in many places as I don't
have the Schwartchild theory under any real grasp.

Deriving the Schwarzschild radius is easy, calculate the distance for a mass where the escape velocity is 'c'.

I also have not read
your earlier posting.  After seeing the NOVA special on STRING theory, ideas
seen to need to get vented here also.  I have to suspect, for instance, that
there is still only three basic dimensions and time.  The 7 others are
allowed by the fact that energy is unable to interact with each other after
its spectrum is shifted too far.  This occurs as it interacts with other
energy fields at higher intensities, effectively causing time to slow down
in that arena.  If one says there are two other levels where there is enough
'time' for energy to interact sideways that gives 6 more 'dimensions' and a
final one where 'time' is so slow that it only has one direction, i.e.. its
direction of motion.  Even in this final direction energy twists around,
just not to its own perspective.

I think you overestimate the value of string theory.


Here's a recent post from sci.physics on string theory.

        From: Uncle Al ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
        Subject: Re: PBS NOVA show on String Theory Tuesday!
        Newsgroups: sci.physics
        Date: 2003-10-27 17:19:10 PST

        Roger Hane wrote:
        >
        > I can't wait! It should be mind blowing. Here's the show's web site:
        > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/

        If you have been following recent threads in sci.physics.research you
        know how interesting the program could be.  String theory is in
        crisis.  It has infinite solutions both physical and (mostly)
        non-physical.  It has no unique empirically testable predictions.
        Anything this complex and useless is usually called "economics."

        Galileo traded his personal freedom to insist on experimentation
        overruling theory.  We have expertly gotten away from that, and are
        paying the exhorbitant price of erecting huge empty cathedrals to the
        great god of least publishable unit theory (probably Sterculius).

I think this pretty much sums it up.

Rich

Sincerely,

Gregory D. MELLOTT
son and computer maintainer
of Kenton W. MELLOTT






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