Re: The Vinland Map Find Or Fraud?

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> > snip
> > > > > It is also worthwhile to ponder that Viking - the first viking
> > ship
> > > > > replica
> > > > > managed to cross the Atlantic in 27 days in her journey for
the
> > > world
> > > > > fair
> > > > > in 1893. Viking was a Gokstad replica and as such probably
never
> > > > > intended
> > > > > as a seagoing ship by the Norse.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Soren Larsen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > 7 weeks for Sir Humphrey in 1583.
> > > >
> > > > Only in a real blow can the Knarr get away from a Longship to
> > > windward,
> > > > although the Knarr can tack faster and point higher the oars of
> the
> > > > Longship make the difference.
> > >
> > > Sure that is the purpose of oars in a warship beside better
> > > maneuverability.
> > >
> > > Other secondary benefits are, teambuilding, physical exercise, and
> > > getting
> > > the warriors used to take orders as a unit.
> > >
> > > But the claim was about the sailing qualities of longships if it
was
> > to
> > > make
> > > any sense. Everybody knows that a rowed ship can go directly
against
> > > normal wind - for a period.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "The sagas include an account of this capability: A Viking named
> > Gauti
> > > > Tófason overtook four Danish knarrs in his longship. He was on
the
> > > verge
> > > > of capturing a fifth when a storm blew up, allowing his prey to
> > > escape."
> > > >
> > >
> > > It would also depend of the size of the ships. In the beginning of
> the
> > > seperation of war and cargo ship the 'knarrs' would be relatively
> > small
> > > and easy for a warship to overtake. In the 11 - 13th century the
> large
> > > knarrs would be a match for anything but a large royal/magnate
> dragon.
> > >
> > > Speaking of which. There is now less than a year to the Skuldelev
2
> > > replica - the large warship is finished. This is the ship build in
> > > around 1040 and it would be on a ship like her that Gytha
> > > Haroldsdaughter
> > > and others of  the Godwinsson clan left Dublin for Denmark .....
> > >
> > > It could indeed be the very same ship, Skuldelev 2 was build
around
> > > Dublin and was found near the Royal Danish residence Roskilde.
> > >
> > > Anyway there is nice reconstruction drawing of her at:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/x9e1
> > >
> > > Soren Larsen
> > >
> >
> > Thanks Soren, she's a beauty.
> >
> > Did you know, that Martin Carver who lead the last dig at Sutton Hoo
> was
> > one of the crew of the Edda (1988 Osberg burial replica). She
capzied
> > and sank when they attempted to tack.
>
> Was that an Oseberg faering replica or an Oseberg ship replica?
>
> Anyway the large number of replicas of the Gokstad and Oseberg ships
> has shown a number of things:
>
> 1) DO NOT downsize the measures - it will affect stability BADLY
> 2) DO NOT use sawn planks - they will fail.
> 2)DO NOT use low quality wood - it will fail.
>
> The constructions of these ships depends on flexible strong planks
> to absorb the the forces of the water.
>
> Cheers
> Soren Larsen
>

Correction to the date 1992, she sank on her maiden voyage near Alesund.
That's all I know.

Jamie