Re: The Vinland Map Find Or Fraud?

Yep....

Skelton, Painter [the two experts from the British Museum], Marston and
Witten all reportedly say/said that the three documents ---- VM, TR and
SH are all in the same hand, done by a single scribe.

All three documents may have come from the private library of a
collateral branch of the Columbus Family, not the Columbus material of
the Duke of Veragua, the official heir of the Family, whose Chistopher
Columbus material was sold to the Spanish state in 1926 ---- and is now
in the General Archive of the Indies in Sevilla.

DSH

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| "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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| > Yep....
| >
| > And the dating of the Tartar Relation to circa 1440 was not
announced
| > until AFTER Yale had been gifted it by Paul Mellon ---- so a
purported
| > forger would not have known that.
| >
| > Further, it is entirely contrary to fact to say that unqualified
folks
| > at Yale vetted the Vinland Map, Tartar Relation and Speculum
Historiale
| > [which naysayers always seem to conveniently forget about and omit
from
| > their accounts].  They were eminently qualified and were joined in
their
| > positive judgements by the two British Museum experts Skelton and
| > Painter ---- who became enthusiastic supporters of the VM.
| >
| > Skelton and Painter had initially turned down the offer to buy the
VM
| > and TR from Irving Davis, a British rarebooks dealer ---- and they
spent
| > several years kicking themselves in the arse for their
misjudgment ----
| > which led to Witten's being able to buy them so cheaply.
| >
| > Then Marston at Yale bought the _Speculum Historiale_ [which proved
to
| > be the critical factor in solving the puzzle] for a ridiculously low
| > price, reportedly about 50 pounds sterling.
| >
| > After he bought it he presented it to Mrs. Witten as a remarkable
gift.
| > Since she already owned the VM and TR ---- all three documents were
now
| > in the hands of a single owner.
| >
| > Marston hoped the Wittens would sell to Mellon, making a huge profit
for
| > themselves and ensuring all three of the documents would eventually
come
| > to Yale.  He was right.
| >
| > Mellon said he would not present all three documents to Yale until
they
| > had been authenticated, which was done ---- Yale took seven years to
do
| > that ---- and the volume VMTR by Skelton, Painter and Marston, with
| > essays by many others, including Witten, appeared in 1965 ---- and
was
| > reissued in 1995.
| >
| > TWO of the three principal authors of that book are BRITS and have
no
| > connection at all with Yale ---- the evidence led them to completely
| > change their opinions as to the VM's authenticity.  Painter was/is
the
| > only one still living.  He is a very enthusiastic supporter of the
VM
| > and is quite amazed at all the fuss about it.
| >
| > The matter of the anatase in the ink is really the only matter that
| > requires further, concerted examination ---- and Jacqueline Olin has
| > told us how to do that.
| >
| > Further, some experts believe the VM and TR are written in the same
hand
| > by the same scribe.  If that is indeed true and is further confirmed
it
| > would be an additional clincher.
| >
| > DSH
|
| This has been very informative. I hope the hand proves to be the same
so the
| map can be accepted as a tool instead of the source of
controversy. -the
| Troll