Re: The Vinland Map Find Or Fraud?

"Vaughan Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i
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> "Inger E Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > "Eric Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
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> > > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:03:28 -0000, "Vaughan Sanders"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > >"Eric Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > >> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:43:58 -0000, "Vaughan Sanders"
> > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > >snip
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> > > >> I have been sailing for 60 years and have many miles of
> saltwalter
> > > >> under my belt (there is a mixed metaphor if there was one!).
> These
> > > >> days I rely on two engines.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you consult reference works such as the 'Admiralty Sailing
> > > >> Directions' or Cornell's 'World Sailing Routes' you will see that
> > > >> first, there is a reverse current in the north of the Atlantic
> which
> > > >> takes ships from the north of England round through the Faroes,
> > > >> Iceland, Greenland to Newfoundland. Similarly, by sailing well to
> the
> > > >> north it is possible to pick up the easterly winds on the north
> side
> > > >> of the westward moving depressions. By keeping to the north one
> gets
> > > >> both favourable winds and currents for a journey to the west.
> > > >>
> > > >> A more southerly route meets both winds and currents from the
> west,
> > > >> which is why they would have returned that way.
> > > >
> > > >Well Eric, if I was a Basque and had just taken your advice to put
> 2000
> > > >miles on my journey.
> > > >I would be severely pissed.
> > > >(current shipping forecast)
> > > >WEST FAEROES SOUTHEAST ICELAND
> > > >SOUTH OR SOUTHWEST 3 OR 4, OCCASIONALLY 5, INCREASING 5 TO 7,
> > > >PERHAPS GALE 8 LATER. RAIN LATER. GOOD BECOMING MODERATE
> > > >
> > > >(southerly route)
> > > >FITZROY SOLE
> > > >NORTH OR NORTHWEST 5 TO 7, OCCASIONALLY GALE 8. THUNDERY SHOWERS OR
> > > >RAIN. GOOD OCCASIONALLY MODERATE
> > >
> > > Its lovely to have consistent weather - the same forecast every day.
> > > Its cheaper too. You can close down the meteorological department.
> > >
> > > In any case, they would not have been making the voyage as the depth
> > > of winter approaches (as is the case at present). They would have
> > > sailed in the middle of the year when the weather pattern was
> further
> > > south.
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> > The Norse sailed from Greenland between late March and October but
> rarely
> > set sail before April from Norway to Greenland. The Basques helped the
> Norse
> > in whale-hunting in at least two small 'settlements' in northern
> > Newfoundland.
> >
> > The fish-wars between Norway and England in water south of Greenland
> took
> > place from May to late Fall. Guess we first have to realise that a few
> > grades over our present temperatures today in these waters does and
> did make
> > a difference.
> >
> > Inger E
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> Just a thought Inger, why do you think the Norse would haul their ships
> across Shetland, rather than risk going north directly towards Faroe?.
> I would think that they didn't want to risk being driven into the Artic
> Ocean.
>
> Jamie

Jamie,
I never seen any hauling of ships across Shetland. Where have you found
that? What I have is sailing as close to Shetland that they could count the
trees or sailing south of the main island of Shetlands. Your thoughts as
good as mine.

Inger E
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