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Lest We Forget: ---------------- "It is their [Brown & Clark's ---- DSH] results that deal the death blow to the authenticity of the map." [...] "The map is a forgery." P. Jonathan Gans ---- 24 December 2002 "I'm sorry old fella. I *have* made up my mind. Everyone else here seems to know exactly what my opinion is. In addition to discussing the evidence of forgery, I've also presented a plausible scenario for how it was done...." P. Jonathan Gans ---- 28 December 2002 "PS: By the way, I've likely seen as much [sic -- DSH] of the original scientific peer-reviewed papers as anyone posting here. It's a forgery fella. Get used to it." P. Jonathan Gans ---- 29 December 2003 Here's a crucial bit. Iron-gall inks on old vellum often (1) flake and (2) leave a yellow stain. But the ink on the Vinland Map is NOT IRON-GALL INK! The ink is CARBON BASED. Therefore there should be NO yellow stain at all. That's only one crucial bit. Any single crucial bit is enough to prove the forgery. Deal with the ink and stain problem and stop quibbling over words. P. Jonathan Gans ---- 2 January 2003 -------------------------------- Hilarious! Gans wants the verdict and the sentence to come BEFORE the evidence is presented. No Trustworthy Scientist He.... ----------------------------- "The elemental composition of the ink of the Vinland Map as published by McCrone, is consistent with an iron gall ink made using components produced by a medieval process known as hydrometallurgy. McCrone interpreted the appearance of the ink of the map to indicate that two inks had been used. Based on this, he presented his data as representing the compositions of two different inks, yellow ink and black ink. However, descriptions of deteriorated iron gall inks show the same appearance as the Vinland Map ink and are not the result of two inks but rather the result of the migrations of components of the ink as a consequence of aging." "The elements copper, aluminum, zinc, and gold are particularly interesting. All are present in the Vinland Map ink as reported by McCrone. The source of the iron found in the ink samples of the Vinland Map ink could be an iron sulfate known as green vitriol. It was green vitriol that was made using a process known as hydrometallurgy. It is important to recognize that the interpretation in earlier publications of the elemental composition of the ink of the map did not include consideration of historical knowledge of metallurgical processes used in the production of medieval ink components. This information is highly relevant in interpreting the analytical studies of the ink." [...] "The presence of carbon in an ink is not evidence that the ink is a carbon ink. It could just as well have been iron gall ink to which carbon has been added as a colorant. Carbon was added to iron gall inks as a colorant in the medieval period as reported and as evidenced by its presence in the ink of the Tartar Relation." [The Tartar Relation is bound with the Vinland Map and is also owned by Yale's Beinecke Rare Book And Manuscript Library. ---- DSH] Jacqueline Olin ---- Analytical Chemistry -- 1 December 2003 ----------------------------------------------------- D. Spencer Hines Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor
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