Re: Maya and Civilization

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Craig) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Philip Deitiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > On 28 Sep 2003 09:35:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (hotmoon) wrote:
> > 
> > >What we call "civilized" depends entirely upon quality of the lives of
> > >the people within a culture and how they treated one another and how
> > >they treated out-group members.  Compassion is the indicator of
> > >"civilization"; not buildings.
> > 
> > Civilized is where 2 or more tribes of people can live in
> > the same camp without killing each other. A civilization
> > like the aztec civilization counts because large people
> > where accumulated and functioned in one place with
> > large numbers of families. There was law and law enforcement
> > and an administrative government that every now and then cut
> > loosed and killed a whole bunch of people.
> > 
> > But on the other hand the Europeans killed people for owning
> > cats, setting of several hundred years of devastating
> > plaques. The romans used to civilize people by impaling
> > disgruntled roughians on poles. Civility is a subjective
> > thing.
> 
>  On the other hand, there isn't anything intrinsically 'noble' about the savage.


...depending on the Savage,  Craig. . .