Re: US firms 'tried to lie' over GM crops, says EU

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jim Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Bruce Sinclair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jim Webster"
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>> >"Bruce Sinclair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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>> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jim Webster"
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>> >> >"Bruce Sinclair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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>> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jim Webster"
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>> >> >> >> US firms 'tried to lie' over GM crops, says EU
>> >> >> >they either lied, or they didn't. If you try to lie, it means you
>> >> >> >inadvertently tell the truth by accident
>> >> >>
>> >> >> .. or were caught ? ... watergate anyone ? :)
>> >> >
>> >> >but no one has actually shown what the lies were, can anyone provide
>> >quotes
>> >> >from what the companies said, not what green organisations say that
>they
>> >> >said?
>> >> I make no staement as to whether there were lies or no. Surely the
>> >> proof of lies involves getting caught telling porkies ?
>> >
>> >did the teachers who taught my mother that the atom was the smallest
>thing
>> >that existed and was indivisible lie? Remember she was at school in the
>late
>> >30s early 40s
>>
>> Depends ... did they know that what they said was wrong when they
>> said it ?
>look at the dates. She was taught before the splitting of the atom was
>known. 

.. tho some had theorised that it was possible. Perhaps ..... "the 
atom is currently the smallest thing known" would have been closer ? 
Seems to me that anyone teaching science ought to say "this is the 
current theory" and/or "we currently believe this to be true". 
Uncertainty should be part of science from the start.

>It was a secret. Basically is the information isn't available, and
>you state what is thought to be true at the time, how can you be lying?

Quite so .. that still leaves the possibility of plausible deniability 
though :) :)

Bruce

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