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Re: dvd recorder/player



luminos wrote:

"Patrick Navin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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Jer wrote:


Then explain how it is that having a copy of a copyrighted work without
permission from the copyright holder is not a breach of international
copyright law.


The concept of 'International Law' is something you might want to read up on. There is no codified international legislation, merely a vast collections of treaties, agreements and some international organisations' articles of incorporation.

The application of law from one state to another is one of the most
complex and frustrating areas of law. Agreements in certain territories
have no value in others becasue prevailing law may prohibit or restrict
the way in which certain agreements or contracts are enforced or allowed.

Copyright, with it's own additional complexities, when een in an
international context, is supremely shady and difficult to apply.
Suffice to say that, what one distributor's copyrigth agreement permits
in one state, anothers' forbids in yet another.

One clear fact is that copyright infringement cannot be dealt, under UK
law, as Theft under TFA 1986. The problem with copyright is that it
applies, invariably, to intellectual property for which it is difficult
to approve both actual appropriation and intention to deprive on a
permanent basis.

There is no 'international copyright law' per se. The codification and
enforcement of copyright agreements caires wildly from state to state
and incoporates both legal and political implications (Chinese state's
reluctance to prosecute pirates of Microsoft/Sony etc). You must look at
your local copyright legislation, and the terms and conditions of the
individiual copyright agreement, to determine whether the copying of an
item is a substantive breach of both the agreement and the law. Bear in
mind that states almost invariably do not recognise other states as
international legal personalities by right of existence. Rather they
tend to recognise them only inasmuch as a particular treaty or agreement
identifies them. Unless a treaty or agreement between your own nation
and the nation from which the copyright agreement derives covers the
said intellectual copyright, enforcement or pursuance are unlikely.

For a very good primer in 'International Law' and the concept of legal
personality of states I recommend Michael Akehurst's 'An Introduction to
International Law'.



> There is an international copyright accord known as the Berne Convention
> (http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html)
>

TOP POSTING CORRECTED

It's an accord. Do you understand the legal obligations under an accord? Do you know how many nations have ratified that accord into domestic legislation? You wont make much of a lawyer or a case pointing out that an accord exists without understanding its implications, breadth and scope.

--
Patrick

"I did the grabs via a Duomix61 grabber as used by 'security sources'"
"I never grabbed them on a PC mate -they went via IE56575 to a fancy
technical thingie grabber -or something" - un-named Video capture 'expert'




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