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- __From__: Patrick Navin
- __Subject__: Re: dvd recorder/player
- __Date__: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:34:24 -0600
William Meyer wrote:
Again, your ignorance is stunning. The best protection of freedom is,
has been, and will remain, capitalism.
Whilst not willing to get dragged into a slagging match I'm pretty sure
the jury is still out on this score, especially as your notion of
'freedom' and another man's are likely to be vastly different. US
economics enshrine the freedom to be vastly wealthy but also the freedom
to be vastly poor and enjoy little in the way of healthcare, welfare or
vacations by circumstance of birth or econimic ability. European
'socialist' policies (as you so quaintly - and sadly wrongly - term
them) enshrine the right for men and women to have an existence.
It may serve you more to couch your absolutes as opinions. After all
your view of capitalism is likely not shared by the majority of the
world just as your President's view of Christianity isn't.
Your socialist governments, with
all the "support" programs they mandate, including your lengthy and
mandatory vacations render European business almost incapable of being
competitive in North America and Asia.
Within the current European Union I can only think of one government
that still enshrines any form of 'socialist' principles - France. It's
one of the few nations in the EU with an enviable track record on public
health, public transport, education standards and standing up to US
bullying in the UN.
Italy, Austria and Spain are all governed by parties of the right and
centre right. The majority of the remainder (Denmark, Germany, Portugal,
Repiblic of Ireland etc) are governed by coalition governments with
'social deomcratic' policies that lean towards free trade with a small,
but constantly cut back, welfare element. Britain is ruled by the
notionally 'socialist' Labour party who have consistently ensured that
business is their priority and that public services are cut back to the
point of making them useless. They have extended the previous
Conservative government's policy of provatisation of nationalised
industries. None of this is 'socialist' activity.
Whilst I have no intention of 'yank bashing' I do feel that the
isolationist tendency of the current US government, and it's continued
mission to brand all things 'socialist' as bad has misinformed you. It
may yet be true that workers rights, mandatory holidays, shorter working
weeks and public healthcare may ultimately mean that Europe does not
compete with Asia on an economic basis. However the Asia you champion is
dominated by China, a nation that has made a Capitalist Dictatorship out
of an Imperialist Hegemony.
Study some history yourself, and some economics, while you're at it,
and spare us the mindless diatribes.
Hopefully you will have read some of what I've written and reaearched a
little more. Whilst Tony Blair and Silvio Berlosconi would doubtless
love to be hailed as champions of Socialism, they are not, nor never
will be socialist leaders. Please get your understanding of the current
European political climate in order before spouting off about
circumstances you clearly are in ignorance of.
--
Patrick
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