Re: FLATTEST im

John Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

> On 12/2/03 9:33 PM, in article, "Harold Buck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> John Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Want to argue with that?  OK, on a more literal note, any loop
>>> course which begins and ends at the same location has, by
>>> definition, zero elevation gain.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I always thought the definition of "elevation gain" was total UPHILL
>> distance, as opposed to net change in elevation, which is zero if you
>> start and end in the same place.
>> 
>> --Harold Buck
>> 
> 
> Elevation:      The height of a thing above a reference level;
> altitude. 
> 
> Gain:       a.  To manage to achieve an increase of.
>             b.  To increase by (a specific amount).
> 
> So, if you start and end at the same point you have "managed to
> achieve an increase in altitude" of exactly zero.  What you describe
> (total UPHILL distance) would best be described as "total vertical
> climb". 
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Seriously, in triathlon circles you are, of course, right Harold.  In
> my world (where I'm a smart ass and my fiancée writes for a living) I
> pick on such things.  After your comment about an uphill swim at IM
> Wisc (which I got, by the way) I hoped you might see through my
> sarcasm. 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 

OK, so explain the uphill swim to me. Did you start in the water and end 
at the top of a seawall?