Re: To opponents of gay marriage

> > They condemn it, because God condemns it in the Bible. The God of
> > the Bible says it, these guys are just passing along the message.
> > People are free to take it or leave it...
> > You can have your opinion, but what your opinion does is make God say
> > "what you WANT him to say" rather than what he actually says. So then
> > you are simply listening to a god you made up -- much like the
> > Hebrews did with their golden calf.

>  I know that it's codemned in the bible.  It also condemns bsing,
> stealing, cheating etc., etc..  That doesn't mean we're all f'ed and,
> to my reasoning anyway, that doesn't mean homosexuals are f'ed.

I never said homos were all f'd. Nor did I say cheaters et. al. were
f'd. What I said is that we all DESERVE to be f'd. However God offers
the free gift of grace to all sinners...to everyone!

>More
> clearly put, we can all be forgiven, despite our various imperfections.

Yes, we can be, but ONLY if we're willing to confess and own up to it.
We can never start to correct our ways, if we're never willing to
admit we're screwing up. Homos aren't admitting they're doing wrong in
hopes of finding forgiveness, rather they are proudly celebrating
they're homosexuality as if there's nothing wrong with it.

>  It also says God knows us before we're born.  Now, if people can be
> born homo just as they can be born hetro, isn't that like God
> codemning some people right from the get-go?

Well, assuming one is "born" homo is another issue entirely. However,
to address the gist of your question, YES, God in fact finds EVERYONE
damnable for we are ALL born in sin. Homo and hetero, for everyone
sins...

> That doesn't make sense
> to me.  That's why I always fall back to the absolute bottom line...
> God is about love.  He's not going to have people born into this world
> who have no chance at redemption.

EXACTLY! We all have a chance at redemption...all we have to do is
confess our faults to God, and accept Jesus' atonement for our
imperfections. Our conditon at birth (assuming sexuality is genetic)
does not change this. For instance, I am a greedy bastard! I was
always greedy and selfish from the time I was born. Does this mean
I'll burn in hell? No! For I accept Christ's gift of salvation, and
acknowledge my sin AS sin, instead of celebrating it as okay.

Just curious, if you went to Church all those years, how did you miss
this fundamental point of Christianity? :) It doesn't sound like they
communicated the truth very well...