Re: OT - Keyshawn

> > From what I've heard, Buse, we're talking about more than Keyshawn
> > saying "gimme the damn ball". Rich McKay was on MNF talking about
how
> > Keyshawn was missing curfews, sleeping during team meetings,
missing
> > team meetings, dogging it in practice, and just generally acting
> > negatively towards Gruden and the organization. Gruden got fed up
with
> > it and pulled the trigger.
>
> If that was the case, then he shoulda been fined out the ass, and
told
> that if this happened again, he'd be cut. Instead they basically
waste
> money and do nothing but create more controversy.

The way McKay explained it, they tried to work it out without fines
and suspensions and whatnot because they didn't want it to be a
running feud. Sounds plausible to me. They cut their losses. Good for
them. McCardell's the go-to guy on that team, anyway, and now that
Jurevicius (sic?) is back, they don't need Keyshawn antyway.

> > Personally, I'm glad somebody finally had the sack to do something
> > like this.
>
> Figured you'd like the decision :)

Oh yeah, I do. :)

> > Will it hurt Keyshawn's career? Probably not. He's gonna
> > get paid to sit on his ass for the rest of the season and then
someone
> > will probably trade for him next year and with the media's help,
he
> > can probably turn it into a "miracle comeback story" like that
> > murderer Ray Lewis did.
>
> Hrmm...he didn't do a damn thing to murder anyone. But, since you're
> going to say he did...then I guess that's your opinion. The system
> found that he had no direct link, and merely lied for friends,
> something all of us have done, but on a less severe nature
obviously.
> Ray didn't kill a single soul.

You're a smart guy, Buse, so get your head out of your ass. The
"system" did not find that Lewis had no direct link, he cut a plea
deal to get out from under the charges and turned on his friends, the
same friends that tried to protect him. He lied throughout that entire
investigation, and it was only when a lawyer was able to get him a
chance him to plead guilty to a misdemeanor that he started telling
the truth. Was I there? No. But somebody once told me that rarely does
an innocent man lie, so as far as I'm concerned, he's a murderer.

> But it's about time somebody stood up and said
> > "we're not gonna put up with your bullshit anymore" to one of
these
> > spoiled, loud-mouthed, overrated jackasses (and don't tell me
about
> > all the "intangibles" Keyshawn had, 'cause that's what people say
> > about overrated jackasses when they don't have the numbers to back
up
> > their bullshit).
>
> 2 years ago he lead the NFL in receptions. He's gone to the Pro Bowl
> numerous times. I'd say that he's probably not overrated Greg...then
> again, you have a firm opinion over Keyshawn, no need for me to
> attempt to alter that ;)

Yes, it would be a futile effort, 'cause you're just plain wrong. He
just doesn't have the numbers to back up his claims of greatness. He
said last year that if they threw to him 20 times per game, he'd have
bigger numbers. No shit, Keyshawn.

The fact of the matter is, he's a good little receiver... but look out
that window. *inside joke* There's any number of good little receivers
in the league that will come play for you and give you *far* less
trouble than Keyshawn. Hell, Joey Galloway's got higher yds/rec
(15.2/13.2) and td/g (.42/.40) than Keyshawn, and is just a tad lower
in yds/g (58/66). For a guy that's supposed to be one of the elites,
that's pretty piss-poor.

>  I applaud Gruden for finally saying enough is enough.
> >
> > Now, if they'd just deactivate Sapp.
> >
> > Greg
>
> Ahh, the Greg hates Sapp debate. Sapp runs his mouth, but does
nothing
> to hurt his team. He's in a contract year and is their sole
franchise
> player, and has never, ever mentioned his contract. He wants to win,
> that's what a player with heart does. That's why I've never
understood
> why you hate Sapp, but oh well :)

Nothing to hurt his team? In a contract year, Warren Sapp is 11th on
his team in tackles and the "QB Killa" has a whopping 5 sacks. And in
their 6 losses this year? A tremendous 17 tackles and 0 sacks. Stupid
penalties (like the roughing call that put Indy at mid-field and led
to a TD in their comeback win over TB), off-the-field idiocy, you get
it all with Sapp. And as far as his heart, he told you all you need to
know about his motivation in that softball interview he did when CBS
tried to make a fucking martyr out of him. His team was losing, his
performance was off, and he'd just had several run-ins with the NFL
brass and what does he make an issue out of? The fact that nobody can
see his face when he plays, oh and how much of a "slave" he is. And as
far as "sole franchise player", he's not even the best player on that
defense. Simeon Rice and Derrick Brooks say hello.

Sapp is an overrated, selfish jerk and the media loves him. *That* is
why I hate Warren Sapp.

Greg