Re: It's a choice.

Jim R. wrote:
> 
> >I think once the players are beyond the age of about 11, this should not be
> the way it is done.>
> 
> Then captains in your area must not EVER screw up.  I regularly have the
> coaches thank me for doing it this way.

I don't doubt it.


> 
> >well I guess if I wanted to get out of the rest of the (varsity) season, that
> would be one way to do it :) >
> 
> Not letting captains screw up is against your assn's policy?

We do everything the rules allow us to, in order to keep the captains
from screwing up. 


> 
> >> Lest you think this is underhanded, remember that the coaches can choose to
> have the coin toss ahead of time with NO captains present.>>
> 
> >Not according to fed rules they can't. Only the captains (not more than four)
> can be present at the coin toss.>
> 
> Let's go to the book:
> 
> FED 3-2-1:
> 
> [snip] "If the coin toss, *or simulated coin toss*, is held on the playing
> field, it shall be held three minutes prior to the scheduled game starting
> time, *or as otherwise specified by individual state associations*"  [emphases
> added]

Yep it says that. Nothing there about overruling 3-2-2, if the state
association says it is ok.  All it says is you can change "when" the
coin toss is held, not how it is held and who can participate. I don't
have this years rule book. Was this rule changed since 2002? 

> 
> Also, from the FED Football Handbook, p. 84:
> 
> "When the toss is held off the field, the results shall be indicated at the
> center of the field prior to the game."
> 
> Now let's be practical:  You go to talk to the home coach before the game.  He
> tells you, "He (the visiting coach) and I want to have the coin toss when
> you're through talking to him."
> 
> Are you going to INSIST that the captains be present and that neither coach can
> talk to his captain?

Color me a rules guy. What can I say. 3-2-2 says no more than four
captains and no other team personnel. That is how we do it. Are you
saying coaches don't count as team personnel?

> 
> Jim Rosenfeld
> 
> God Bless the
>     U. S. A.