Re: Fed USC ?

Paige Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On Stardate 11/10/2003 8:15 PM, the following keys were mysteriously
> typed at Jeff Kazen's keyboard...
> > "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > 
> >>If you think a third USC foul will help him improve his behavior,
> >>then by all means, give his kids another 15 yards.
> >>
> >>Can you do by rule?  Sure.
> >>Will it help improve your game situation?  Unlikely.
> > 
> > I know we are talking football, but because basketball was brought up,
> > I again want to stress that you can NOT give a third USC (i.e. direct
> > technical foul) by rule.
> 
> What basketball rule is that?
> 

10-2-2

> If the head coach receives 2 USC technical fouls, he is ejected by rule 
> (NCAA 10-10-6). If he refuses to leave, and is still guilty of USC 
> enough to warrant another technical foul, he is still covered by NCAA 
> 10-9 and 10-10. 

But 10-2-2 specifically says that you CANNOT give another technical
foul to a team member that has been disqualified.  For those who don't
have the rulebook handy, here is the exact text.

Art. 2. When a player, member of bench personnel or coach has been
ejected for having incurred the maximum number of technical fouls, no
additional technical fouls shall be assessed.

I don't see how that can be any less clear.

> You can't just allow him to continue to behave badly 
> just because he has two technicals. If you give him a third technical 
> foul, this is charged also as an bench direct technical to the 
> replacement head coach, whomever that is (10-10-6).
> 

No, this may not be charged as ANYTHING.  Your only choices after
giving 2 Technical fouls are forfeiture or ignore it.

> Of course, you may choose forfeiture as an alternative to a third 
> technical, my feeling is that the third technical is the lesser of two 
> evils.

If making up your own rules that specifically go against the rulebook
is the lesser of two evils, then I think you've got your priorities
wrong.  Dealing with the situation is very simple -- tell the
assistant coach that if he doesn't get the coach out of there
immediately the game is a forfeit.  It's amazing how quickly he'll be
out the door.

It works even in intramurals.

-Jeff