Re: Graf vs CCM

The Graf is overrated.  Their bottom end (holder and runner) sucks.  I'd say
90% of my customers who have Grafs, have chaged to a Tuuk or Prolite bottom.
The only reason Grafs are popular is because players skate better in them.
I't not the skate, but it's how graf has built in a toe down pitch.  Toe
down makes you skate better.  But you don't need Grafs, any skate can be
given a toe down pitch by a qualified radius expert.

Bob
"sk8hard" <orleanshockey@@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> seems to confirm what I've been hearing about Graf skates: overpriced and
> overrated.
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> "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Just switched to CCM for the first time (Pro Tacks).  Had Vapor 10's and
> > Graf 703's before that.  The Grafs just didn't last.  I liked them but
> > decided I wouldn't buy them again.  Both tongues ripped out of the boots
> and
> > I had to have them re-stitched, 2 broken blades...the steel they use is
> > crap.  Overall I liked them but I'm not impressed by their quality.
They
> > were light and very comfortable but that was about it.  I only got 2
years
> > out of them.
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> > The Vapor's were light, extremely stiff and ultimately just got
> > uncomfortable.  The Tacks I have now seem just right.  Light, med-stiff
> and
> > very protective.  I'd buy them again.
> >
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> > "sk8hard" <orleanshockey@@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> > > Been wearing top end CCM for years, was wondering if anyone had
comments
> > on
> > > VS Graf 700 series skates in similar price rage, differences,
pros-cons
> > etc.
> > > Comparisons.
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