Re: Question for umpires

Gary:

The PDF which you reference are the FIH Outdoor Rules. You can get all rules
from www.fihockey.org.

Don


"Gary Stacey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Ian - As the ball actually ended up in the goal I believe at top level the
> umpires wouldn't of hesitated in giving a goal!
>
> Also in rule 14.3 it clearly states that an offence must occur with-in the
> circle (D) for a stroke to be given - not the twenty-five.
>
> I must also admit I have only umpired a handful of games and are only
> interpreting the rules as can be found at the below link:
>
> http://www.englandhockey.co.uk/core_files/fileDownload(17).pdf
>
>
> Cheers
>
> G
>
>
> "Ian Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > 1) A shot from inside the 'D' off target, hits the defender (stick or
> body)
> > and goes in is a goal, regardless of if the keeper had it covered or
not.
> >
> > 2) A shot from inside the 'D' on target , hits the defenders body (inc.
> feet
> > etc.) has two outcomes:
> >         a) if a goal would have been scored if it had not hit the
defender
> > then its a penalty stroke
> >         b) if it would not have gone in (i.e. keeper behind defender)
then
> > its a penalty corner.
> >
> > 3) Any deliberate foul, within the 25 if outdoor or the half if indoor,
> > which was caused in order to prevent a goal scoring opportunity is a
> penalty
> > stroke.
> >
> > The actual decisions made often reflect the umpires experience and
> > confidence, many umpires won't give penalty strokes because they are not
> > confident enough.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ian Warren.
> >
> > P.S. I'm currently coaching national league, playing just below and
> > umpiring. At the top level the umpires wouldn't hesitate to give the
> stroke.
> >
> > "J & D MacPherson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Hello...
> >
> > I'd like to find out if any umpires or other FH officials participate in
> > this group. Its a bit of a long story, but I've been asked to consider
> > umpiring. (My daughter plays, I've done some youth FH goalkeeper
coaching,
> > and I have soccer officiating experience.) I have read both the indoor
and
> > outdoor FIH rules, but I run across odd interpretations for which I'd
like
> > to get others' opinions. Here's one:
> >
> > Indoor - I saw two goals disallowed yesterday for the same thing. A
legal
> > shot is taken, the ball deflects off a defender's foot, and crosses the
> goal
> > line for an apparent score. The umpire disallows the goal and awards a
> > penalty corner. Was this correct?
> >
> > I looked to Rule 11-"Scoring a goal", and part C reads:
> >
> > "c. the ball may be played by or touch the stick or body of a defender
> > before or after being played in the circle by an attacker"
> >
> > I interpret the two plays as legal goals. If the shot was clearly going
to
> > be a goal and the defender stopped it with a foot, then I might consider
a
> > corner, but more likely a penalty stroke if I felt the shot was clearly
to
> > be a goal.
> >
> > (The team lost by one goal.)
> >
> > I look forward to all comments. Thanks very much.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Don MacPherson
> >
> >
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