Re: Question for umpires

Ian - As the ball actually ended up in the goal I believe at top level the
umpires wouldn't of hesitated in giving a goal!

Also in rule 14.3 it clearly states that an offence must occur with-in the
circle (D) for a stroke to be given - not the twenty-five.

I must also admit I have only umpired a handful of games and are only
interpreting the rules as can be found at the below link:

http://www.englandhockey.co.uk/core_files/fileDownload(17).pdf


Cheers

G


"Ian Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> 1) A shot from inside the 'D' off target, hits the defender (stick or
body)
> and goes in is a goal, regardless of if the keeper had it covered or not.
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> 2) A shot from inside the 'D' on target , hits the defenders body (inc.
feet
> etc.) has two outcomes:
>         a) if a goal would have been scored if it had not hit the defender
> then its a penalty stroke
>         b) if it would not have gone in (i.e. keeper behind defender) then
> its a penalty corner.
>
> 3) Any deliberate foul, within the 25 if outdoor or the half if indoor,
> which was caused in order to prevent a goal scoring opportunity is a
penalty
> stroke.
>
> The actual decisions made often reflect the umpires experience and
> confidence, many umpires won't give penalty strokes because they are not
> confident enough.
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> Regards,
> Ian Warren.
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> P.S. I'm currently coaching national league, playing just below and
> umpiring. At the top level the umpires wouldn't hesitate to give the
stroke.
>
> "J & D MacPherson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hello...
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> I'd like to find out if any umpires or other FH officials participate in
> this group. Its a bit of a long story, but I've been asked to consider
> umpiring. (My daughter plays, I've done some youth FH goalkeeper coaching,
> and I have soccer officiating experience.) I have read both the indoor and
> outdoor FIH rules, but I run across odd interpretations for which I'd like
> to get others' opinions. Here's one:
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> Indoor - I saw two goals disallowed yesterday for the same thing. A legal
> shot is taken, the ball deflects off a defender's foot, and crosses the
goal
> line for an apparent score. The umpire disallows the goal and awards a
> penalty corner. Was this correct?
>
> I looked to Rule 11-"Scoring a goal", and part C reads:
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> "c. the ball may be played by or touch the stick or body of a defender
> before or after being played in the circle by an attacker"
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> I interpret the two plays as legal goals. If the shot was clearly going to
> be a goal and the defender stopped it with a foot, then I might consider a
> corner, but more likely a penalty stroke if I felt the shot was clearly to
> be a goal.
>
> (The team lost by one goal.)
>
> I look forward to all comments. Thanks very much.
>
> Regards,
>
> Don MacPherson
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