Re: going apeshit over Parcells

Trent Woodruff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >santolina was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
> >>Trent Woodruff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>>santolina was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
>
> >>>I just did.  "Mismatches in the NFL are measured in inches, not yards,
> >>>which is why disversified pro-style offenses are the only ones
possible, or
> >>>even attempted."  But I guess I have to elaborate.
> >>>Nebraska, for instance, has the same mismatch every game, every year.
> >>>Big o-line, good tailback, running quarterback.  In the NFL half your
> >>>opponents might be able to take that away from the get-go, and those
that can't
> >>>would rapidly make adjustments.  That's why in the NFL you also need a
> >>>quarterback who can run a diversified passing offense
>
> >> Trent Dilfer.
>
> >Since this point has zero to do with the question at hand, I guess I'll
have
> >to ask you to explain.
>
> Allow me to educate you on exactly what it has to do with the question
> at hand.
>
> Trent Dilfer was the quarterback of a team that won the Super Bowl.
>
> Trent Dilfer's job was not to run a diversified passing offense IN ANY
> SENSE OF THE WORD.
>
> Trent Dilfer's job was to not give the football away.
>

Dilfer ran a diversified pro style offense.  You seem to be saying that
Baltimore ran a conservative (by NFL standards) offense.  That is also true.
The two are not mutually exclusive.

Dilfer attempted 226 regular season passes in only half a year's work.
Dilfer plus Banks attempted 500 passes.  Dilfer attempted 25 passes in the
Super Bowl and completed a 38 yard TD pass.  You see, even if you have a
conservative offense and a stifling defense in the NFL you still end up
passing the ball quite a lot, but again, that's not really got anything to
do with the fact that the Ravens ran a pro style offense.

> >>>>  Defending the option
> >>>> requires supreme patience and discipline.
>
> >>>Not really, what it mainly requires is that you have as much talent on
> >>>your defense as the opponent has on offense.
>
> >> This is crazy...the primary defense of the option is discipline.
>
> >The primary factor in defense of any offense is talent.  If you lack the
> >talent to compete with o-line and runners at the LOS you will simply get
> >your ass fucked between the tackles and "option" plays won't even enter
into
> >the equation.
>
> A disciplined defense does not need the talent to defend the
> triple-option.  The reason for this is because a triple-option team
> usually doesn't beat you with power...they beat you by giving you too
> many chances to fuck up on defense.
>
> I've seen too many Wyoming and Iowa State teams give Nebraska's
> offense absolute shit-fits not to believe this.
>

I don't think you've seen it very many times.

Nebraska's point totals against Iowa State since 1990 are 13, 38, 10, 49,
28, 73, 49, 77, 42, 49, 49, 48, 14, 28.  I only found one meeting since 1990
between Nebraska and Wyoming, in 1994, and Nebraska scored 42.

> Granted, talent does come into the equation some...no doubt about it.
>
>
> But I maintain that the primary ingredient is discipline.
>
>
> >You don't seriously believe that if Notre Dame played the most
undisciplined
> >game of their lives that they wouldn't defeat Navy, do you?
>
> You mean the Navy team that only lost to Notre Dame by three points?

Three things will have to happen for Navy to beat Notre Dame.  First, Navy
must have a relatively good team, which they do.  Second, Notre Dame must
have a relatively poor, undisciplined team, which they do.  Alas, Navy still
lost.  Oh, the third thing is intervention from Above.

> That Navy team?  Absolutely I believe they could lose to Navy.  Hell,
> Notre Dame's lost to Air Force a couple of times when they didn't
> really play that badly, frankly.  And Air Force's offense IS Navy's
> offense, and Air Force's talent is better but not awe-inspiringly so.
>

Notre Dame is 67-9-1 all time vs. Navy, 36-8-4 vs. Army, 21-5 vs. Air Force.
Air Force is 25-10 all time vs. Navy, 24-12-1 vs. Army.  The service
academies have historically beaten Notre Dame about 15% of the time, but we
all know how undiciplined the service academies are.