Re: I'll put all of this in one thread.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (BPeugh11) wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

> Alan Mundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (BPeugh11) wrote in
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
>>
>>>  Alan Mundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>P.S. The refs stole a down from FSU after the fumble on the goal
>>>>line. 
>>>>
>>>>That play was first down. The personal foul should have been an
>>>>automatic first down, but the ref called "half the distance to the
>>>>goal, 2nd down." 
>>>>
>>> 
>>> The foul signalled/announced  was not Personal Foul but
>>> Unsportsmanlike Conduct. 
>>> 
>>> I do not know if UC is an automatic first down in NCAA rules, but it
>>> struck me as odd that the down was announced as 2nd. I just assumed
>>> that all 15 yard defensive penalties were automatic first downs.
>>> Maybe there is a difference between it being a dead ball foul and
>>> live action foul? 
>>> 
>>>  You seem to have a rule book handy most of the time. Maybe you can
>>>  find the 
>>> rule to determine if this was yet another screw up by the refs or a
>>> perfect addition to the "Football Rules Myths" page.
>>
>>The call was correct.
>>
>>Unsportmanslike conduct *can* be a personal foul if it involves
>>another player (i.e. taunting,etc.). When it doesn't, it's not a
>>personal foul and is merely 15 yards tacked onto the end of the play
>>(no automatic first down).
>>
>>--
>>Alan Mundy
>>
> 
> Alas, it's not like the down actually mattered.

Since you were at the game you probably missed it, but right after third 
down Rix was looking over at the coaches, hitting his chest with his 
fist begging for the ball.

The kid is flat out dumb sometimes, and he's one of those people with 
such a huge ego that he doesn't even *know* he has an ego, but there 
aint an ounce of quit in him.

--
Alan Mundy