Re: I'll put all of this in one thread.

Alan Mundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (BPeugh11) wrote in
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
>
>>  Alan Mundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>P.S. The refs stole a down from FSU after the fumble on the goal line.
>>>
>>>That play was first down. The personal foul should have been an
>>>automatic first down, but the ref called "half the distance to the
>>>goal, 2nd down." 
>>>
>> 
>> The foul signalled/announced  was not Personal Foul but
>> Unsportsmanlike Conduct. 
>> 
>> I do not know if UC is an automatic first down in NCAA rules, but it
>> struck me as odd that the down was announced as 2nd. I just assumed
>> that all 15 yard defensive penalties were automatic first downs. Maybe
>> there is a difference between it being a dead ball foul and live
>> action foul? 
>> 
>>  You seem to have a rule book handy most of the time. Maybe you can
>>  find the 
>> rule to determine if this was yet another screw up by the refs or a
>> perfect addition to the "Football Rules Myths" page.
>
>The call was correct.
>
>Unsportmanslike conduct *can* be a personal foul if it involves another 
>player (i.e. taunting,etc.). When it doesn't, it's not a personal foul and 
>is merely 15 yards tacked onto the end of the play (no automatic first 
>down).
>
>--
>Alan Mundy
>

Alas, it's not like the down actually mattered.


bp

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