Re: I'll put all of this in one thread.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (BPeugh11) wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

>  Alan Mundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>
>>P.S. The refs stole a down from FSU after the fumble on the goal line.
>>
>>That play was first down. The personal foul should have been an
>>automatic first down, but the ref called "half the distance to the
>>goal, 2nd down." 
>>
> 
> The foul signalled/announced  was not Personal Foul but
> Unsportsmanlike Conduct. 
> 
> I do not know if UC is an automatic first down in NCAA rules, but it
> struck me as odd that the down was announced as 2nd. I just assumed
> that all 15 yard defensive penalties were automatic first downs. Maybe
> there is a difference between it being a dead ball foul and live
> action foul? 
> 
>  You seem to have a rule book handy most of the time. Maybe you can
>  find the 
> rule to determine if this was yet another screw up by the refs or a
> perfect addition to the "Football Rules Myths" page.

The call was correct.

Unsportmanslike conduct *can* be a personal foul if it involves another 
player (i.e. taunting,etc.). When it doesn't, it's not a personal foul and 
is merely 15 yards tacked onto the end of the play (no automatic first 
down).

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Alan Mundy