Re: Research Project

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (crayon) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robin Bauer) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (judd) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robin Bauer) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > 
> > > First of all, welcome back from the dead, Robin.
> > > 
> > > > Many changes are needed:
> > > > 
> > > > 1 - name change, ULTIMATE just won't cut it.  It is a very lame name
> > > > for our great sport
> > > > 2 - refs are needed, a mainstream sport without refs just won't work.
> > > > 3 - need to speed up the game.  I am not very familiar with the
> > > > college rules but it sounds like they do good job of eliminating
> > > > downtime.
> > > 
> > > I could live with these changes, I mean if some marketing gurus and
> > > experts determined this would work.
> > > 
> > > > 4 - make Zond D illegal.  Reason being - it slows down the game and is
> > > > usually very boring to watch.  Thus it should be banned.
> > > 
> > > Is soccer boring?  Golf?  What makes boring.... boring?  If it's the
> > > basketball/football crowd you're trying to attract, then maybe zone is
> > > boring, I don't know.  But zone D is just an organized form of
> > > poaching, more or less.  How would you regulate poaching and when
> > > would it be considered a zone?  That would seem difficult to separate,
> > > because you don't want all poaching do be illegal (do you?), yet too
> > > much of it may fit into a definition of zone.
> > 
> > Poaching is great and not banned in any sport that I know of. 
> > Poaching was still legal in the NBA when zones were not legal.  By
> > boring I mean that zone slows the game down and takes away some of the
> > sports athleticism.  I think there are far fewer great plays made on O
> > and D when people are playing zone.  I think we could take the lead on
> > this one and prevent ways of slowing down the game, unlike the major
> > sports do.  Basketball and soccer can both get very, very boring near
> > the end of the game due to coaches being able to slow down the game,
> > as can football if the team has the ball and they have the lead. 
> > Let's try to prevent this "slowing down" in Ultimate (flatball) and I
> > think we can start with the zone.  It would be simple to make some
> > rules that will prevent zoning and still allow for poaching.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > >          3) What kind of influence would major sports fans bring?
> > > > 
> > > > don't think they'd bring influence, they would just have to become
> > > > educated.
> > > 
> > > I think major sports fans would bring people from different
> > > backgrounds in who want to play.
> 
> i think you're looking at this the wrong way. no one has the kind of
> dedication to a sport that makes it really truly popular because they
> find the sport compelling in every aspect. that's unrealistic.
> baseball, compared to, say, soccer is the most boring thing on the
> planet. soccer can get tiresome at times, but it is popular because a
> billion people in the world are crazy about it. trying to tweak
> ultimate will not cause execs at espn to shout "hell, they got rid of
> that stupid, awful zone d, let's put ultimate in the rotation guys."
> that's just unrealistic.

are you suggesting to just stand by, do nothing, and hope the sport
becomes more popular by some twist of fate?  I think we're just
talking about being proactive, my ideas may be wrong, but I think
changes are needed to advance this sport and maybe a sport exec might
go hey - that's a great sport.  Not because there's no zone, but
because some type of change was made making the sport more
entertaining, more public friendly.