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Re: This came up at Winter League last night...can anyone help



"Mike Gerics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> 
> ---we play on a field that has a round voided area in the center of the
> field.
> our opponent took the pull, and it landed in the exact center of the voided
> out area in the center of the field.
> we could not determine WHICH spot on the edge of the void to put the disc
> back into play, because the disc was exactly 10 yards from EACH SPOT on the
> perimeter of the circular void.
> 
> WHERE do we put the disc into play??????

Smartalecky answer number 1:

  Easy question. It did not land in bounds so at the brick mark. 
Doesn't your league have any UPA observers in it that would know the
brick rule?

Smartalecky answer number 2:

  We had a similar predicament in summer pickup once when it was
really windy. The disc caught a breeze, the disc started floating and
floating and getting futrther and further away. It ended up on the
point of the globe antipodal to the exact center of the field! (it
really was windy). To complicate things further, we were using a
square field that day. This left 4 "spots" that tied for being
closest. One person suggested that the closest point would be in the
exact center of the field since tunneling through the earth's surface
resulted in the shortest distance possible but he was dismissed as
being too theoretical and not living in the real world. On further
reflection my opinion is that the offence should be allowed to choose,
however at the time we roshammed for it. Taking the disc at the
opponent's goalline won, and a score was thrown to be called back on a
travel call, since the pivot "point" was not exactly on the goaline.

   If you agree with my opinion of the offence being allowed to choose
than the problem would be solved, I don't what the official rules say
though. If you go for the Rosham option then sorry that this doesn't
really answer your question since there are an infinite number of
points in your scenario and a finite number in mine to choose from.
Does anyone have a good roshambo tournament setup to choose from an
infinite (even uncountably infinite!) number of options that won't
take all day?

  Since you have equated the definitions of spot and point I must ask
about  the voided area being an open or closed set topologically? Many
people seem to be missing the importance of that distinction.

 Hope this helps, Bob Koca



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