Re: Top 10 Heavyweights of the 1980's?

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:38:19 -0800, "Charles Beauchamp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



>> >I will point out that the perrenial position that you take regarding
>Evander
>> >Holyfield (you generally knock his level of competition) kind of refutes
>> >your strange evaluation of Cooney.
>>
>> Not at all. I regard Holyfield as one of the best of the 90s, just not
>> as good as Lennox Lewis. And from an all time perspective I do not
>> consider either Holyfield or Cooney all time greats. I would place
>> Holyfield in the lower half of the top 20 of all time-on a par with
>> Ken Norton (certainly not in the top 5 that I have seen him placed by
>> some) and Cooney somewhere in the top 35 along with Earnie Shavers.
>>
>
>OK I apologize for my misunderstanding of your dozens of Holyfield only
>fought old stiffs flavored posts in replies to my dozens of messages to the
>contrary over the last 2 years.  Somehow I missed your point in all of those
>messages slamming Evander's level of competition...that in fact Evander was
>an all time top 20 HW.  Frankly I think I have always made it clear that
>Lennox overall is a greater HW all time...

What I have said about Holyfield, I have also said about Marciano. He
is over rated due to his looking good against has beens and never
weres. And when I have said it, it was always in the context of people
either saying that he was a top 10 fighter of all time, or the premier
fighter of the 90s. He was neither.


Loki