Re: Base of Ball or Edge of Ball??

Ray;
Sorry, but you are ill informed on this subject.
All written rules I've ever observed state that any ball
whose base is exactly ON the foul line must be considered to be
WITHIN the kitchen since it CANNOT be OUTSIDE the kitchen.....

I think that's a point that almost everyone can agree on.....

McDave
--
/s/ David E. Nixon  in Maryland "A Faire Lande of Pleasant Living"
        http://www.carryingcapacity.org

"Ray Fichthorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The rule states the cue ball MUST hit a rail "outside the kitchen" before
contacting any ball "in
> the kitchen"- so the shot you describe:
>
> \START(
> %BL8P7%CJ7O4%DL8N2%Er6Z3%FK7P1%GK7N8%HM7N8%IL7O4%JK8M6%KJ7P7
> %LJ7N2%MK7Q3%NJ7Q9%OJ7M0%Ph2Y2%Uf4C9%Vh0X9%_r1Y0%`n1Q3%af6C4
> )END
> Is legal....
>
>
> this includes a ball whose edge is past the headstring (hanging out of the
kitchen). You cannot
> shoot the ball like this:
> START(
> %BL8P7%CJ7O4%DL8N2%Eg9K2%FK7P1%GK7N8%HM7N8%IL7O4%JK8M6%KJ7P7
> %LJ7N2%MK7Q3%NJ7Q9%OJ7M0%Ph2Y2%Ug1L2%Vh0X9%_r8D5%`m2G7%ah4J9
> )END
> You cannot LEGALLY pocket it in the corner... the cue ball MUST contact a
rail before contacting the
> object ball.
>
> Side Note: When the object (or any) ball is ON the headstring- it is
considered "out" of the
> kitchen. So, you cannot break, or shoot after a foul- by setting the
cue-ball ON the headstring- It
> MUST be placed behind it.
>
> Ray
>
> Nixon, D wrote:
> > SactownTom;
> >
> >
> > I thank you.     But, please let me know your opinion on:
> > Player makes his last object ball but scratches which leaves
> > only the 8-Ball left on the table and it is very near the
> > left/head/corner pocket.   Can his opponent take the cueball
> > behind the foul line, do an extreme right-spin shot to the right
> > side cushion, but ahead of the foul line, and then coming back inside
> > the foul line to legally make the 8-Ball in the left/head/corner??
> >
> > I like the above described kick shot about as much as a spot shot.
> > But, the rule you quote below does not seem to address that.
> > What's your opinion??
> >
> > McDave
> >
> > /s/ David E. Nixon  in Maryland "A Faire Lande of Pleasant Living"
> >         http://www.carryingcapacity.org
> >
> > "SactownTom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >>From the BCA website. Sorry, no drawings.
> >>
> >>http://www.bca-pool.com/play/ under 'General Rules of Pocket Billiards'
> >>3.10     CUE BALL IN HAND BEHIND THE HEAD STRING
> >>This situation applies in specific games whereby the opening break is
> >>administered or a player’s scratching is penalized by the incoming
player
> >>having cue ball in hand behind the head string. The incoming player may
> >>place the cue ball anywhere behind the head string. The shooting player
> >
> > may
> >
> >>shoot at any object ball as long as the base of the object ball is on or
> >>below the head string. He may not shoot at any ball, the base of which
is
> >>above the head string,
> >>
> >>
> >>"Nixon, D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Group;
> >>>
> >>>Does anyone know if there is a BCA rule as to whether the
> >>>BASE of the ball or the EDGE/horizontal-equator of the ball
> >>>is used to determine whether or not a ball is on, or behind,
> >>>the line?
> >>>
> >>>We have an newguy oaf here who wants to make a big deal out
> >>>of it and our group has been playing under accepted, and posted,
> >>>house rules that the BASE of a ball is used and if the BASE is exactly
> >>>on the foul line then it is considered behind the line for the incoming
> >>>player.
> >>>
> >>>The newguy claims that the "BOOK" (even though he cannot
> >>>read and has no book) says that if the edge of the ball is behind
> >>>the line then it is considered behind the line.  I've given him a
> >
> > printed
> >
> >>>copy of our written rules but it is useless to him because it
> >>>contains no pictures and he is ashamed to have to have someone
> >>>read it to him.   He is gonna' be "something else" to deal with, I
> >>>can see it now !!   (Suggestions welcomed!  <chuckle>)
> >>>
> >>>Seems the BCA General Rules of Pocket Billiards is no longer
> >>>on their WEB Site and I don't have the 2003 Edition.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks...
> >>>
> >>>McDave
> >>>--
> >>>/s/ David E. Nixon  in Maryland "A Faire Lande of Pleasant Living"
> >>>        http://www.carryingcapacity.org
> >>>=========================================================
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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