Re: Laker Haters: Best of

"igor eduardo küpfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:08:21 -0800, "brink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> >"igor eduardo küpfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> Hater? Where have I ever said that I hated the Lakers? Believe it or
not,
> >some
> >> of us are able to form opinions without reference to emotions.
> >>
> >> >From: igor eduardo küpfer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >> >Subject: Re: Quasi OT: Shaq vs. Kobe
> >> >Newsgroups: alt.sports.basketball.nba.seattle-sonics
> >> >Date: 2003-10-28 09:35:39 PST
> >> >
> >>
> >> >Yes, I said it: I don't think the Lakers have much chance to win more
> >than
> >> >50,
> >> >or excel in the playoffs -- with or without Kobe.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I can't see where I've said anything incorrect: the Lakers haven't won
50,
> >and
> >> they haven't advanced in the playoffs. QED. I anxiously await your
> >apology.
> >
> >you said they don't have much *chance* to win more than 50 with or
without
> >kobe.  which was a bold predicition to make, but obviously at this point
> >pretty much dead wrong.
> >
> >but since you still stand by that statement, i'll take some of that
action.
> >
> >how much do you want to bet?  ;-)
> >
>
> Bet that the Lakers haven't won 50 games? Twelve gazzilion dollars. Make
that
> cheque payable to ed küpfer, c/o Bad Bets Anonymous, Toronto Ontario.

that's not what you said.

you said the lakers didn't have much *chance* to win 50 games.

and they had and have an excellent chance.  in fact, i'd say there isn't
much chance they'll win less than 50.

see the difference?

> But seriously, I never understood why people think that betting lends some
> kind of authority to their predictions.

if you think that's what i think, you're mistaken.

If I predict something, it means I
> look at the circumstances and make a reasoned extrapolation as to how
things
> will go in the future.

sure, and you made a bad prediction.  so it's time to cut your losses, so to
speak, or take me up on my bet.  ;-)

If someone makes a contrary prediction, they feel that
> I've inferred incorrectly from the present. In neither case is anyone
"right"
> or "wrong". The person who won the bet didn't know how things would turn
out
> any better than the loser did, they just guessed better. Maybe it's just
me,
> but a good guess is nothing to be proud of. It's certainly nothing to
gloat
> about.

oh come on, what's usenet without a little gloating?  ;-)

i said from day one that payton and malone would be fine and the lakers
would be playign like gangbusters.  i also predicted that kobe wouldn't be
"distracted" by his case, and he's been great.

of course, i'm also wrong plenty of the time.  i predicted before the last
baseball seaosn that the rangers would contend for the playoffs (whoops) and
that a-rod would win MVP (ding), also that people would think dusty was a
letdown in chicago cause the cubs wouldn't be much better (whoops again).

>
> >> (Hater? Really, I must protest. I have but two NBA hatreds, neither of
> >them
> >> Laker-related: Keon and tmoc. I am emotionally indifferent to the
rest --
> >> including your precious team, around which the world apparently
revolves.)
> >
> >you haven't heard?  the axis of planet earth intersects shaquille
o'neal's
> >locker at staples center.  ;-)
> >
>
> A good example of what I mean. I think Shaq is a total asshole. I've
thought
> that for years. I think he is, as a person, a discredit to the human race.

why?

> But so what? He is a great basketball player, perhaps one of the
half-dozen
> best of all time. A versatile and exceptionally talented athlete. My
contempt
> for him personally shouldn't affect my appraisal of him as a player -- and
I
> don't think it does.
>
> Accordingly, whatever I happen to think of the Lakers as a whole (which is
not
> much) shouldn't affect my appraisal of their ability. If I predict doom
for
> the franchise, believe me, it's not based on emotions. To call me a hater
> ignores my reasoning.

i don't think too many people take the "hater" label as seriously as you do.
come on, lighten up.

wear it proudly.  ;-)

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