Re: Rule Clarification

Somebody asked :

>> Can anyone confirm whether the following are true:
>   1) A charging foul from the team on offence does not count against their Team Foul 
> total.
>   2) An Illegal screen should does count against a team's Team Foul total.

Somebody else answered :
>> I don't believe either are true.  Both count against the team totals.

This much is correct. Bonus begins to be awarded for "Each common foul
(except  player control) beginning with a team's seventh personal,
unsporting, or contact technical foul during the half, providing the
first attempt is successful."  [NCAA 10.12.d.]

The exemption for "player control" is, however, frequently
misunderstood by those who haven't read the definitions carefully. "A
player-control foul is a common foul committed ... by a player when he
is in control of the ball." [NCAA 4.14.e.]  

Just to make sure, it continues : "A player-control foul cannot occur
during an interrupted dribble. Free throws are not awarded when a
player-control foul is committed; however, a player-control foul
counts toward a player's five fouls for disqualification and toward
team fouls for the bonus situation." [NCAA 4.14.e.]

A "charge" arises under NCAA 10.9 Personal fouls: Types "A player
shall not hold, push, charge or trip ..."   There is nothing in the
rules which even begins to require that the Charger have the ball; a
"charge" is thus not necessarily a player-control foul

In other words, the question is really whether foul shots are awarded,
not whether a Charge counts toward disqualification or bonus (yes, it
does). Confusion arises when people incorrectly assume that a Charge
is necessarily 'player-control' (it isn't). There are no foul shots
when Charge is committed by man <with> the ball because 'fouls with
the ball' are 'player-control' and thus specifically exempt).

>Just to be picky, the second scenario would be a "team control foul". 
>Unless the guy setting the screen had the ball...

No, an illegal screen is just an ordinary garden-variety common foul.
Foul shots are awarded when warranted; there is no FT exemption for
any  'screening' foul. See NCAA 10.11 Personal Fouls: By Screener.

>All laid out in gory detail here: 
>http://ncaa.org/library/rules/2004/2004_basketball_rules.pdf
>Particularly in a great (but hard as hell to read sideways pdf
>on a screen) chart in Appendix IV - Foul/Penalty Chart

Yup. But forget the chart, read the section on definitions (Rule 4),
then the Fouls & Penalties (Rule 10). 

        Regards - rdw