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Re: Warren Spahn RIP: Last of 360 game winners?



"colin campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > colin campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mpoconnor7) wrote:
> >
> > :> Will we ever see another pitcher win over 360 games in the Majors?
> >
> > : Not under current conditions.  But conditions could change.
> >
> > Well, assuming Clemens stays retired, there still is a guy with 289 wins
> > through his age 37 season.  Maddux has 49 wins over the last three
years.
> > If he gets 40 wins over the next three seasons, that would put him at
329
> > through age 40, and if he's still healthy and interested he'd have a
shot.
> >
> > Basically, Maddux and Clemens are both ahead of where Spahn was at the
> > same age, which implies to me that it's possible to do under the
> > conditions they pitched in.
> >
> > JHB
>
> After his age 37 season, Spahn won 117 games.  I'm a big Maddux fan but
> Spahn had a career like nobody else's.  It sure would be cool if Maddux
> could win 20 games four more times,  though.

If he's willing to go for broke, he could become a screwball pitcher like
Spahn did at his later age. 329 would give him by far the most wins of any
career completely in the five-man rotation era.

Spahn had 77 complete games in his final five seasons, and I believe all of
those CGs were after he turned 40. (Quick look at Retrosheet... yup, first
decision on 4/23/1961, his 40th birthday.) Unless there are some major
medical advances or the bullpen system goes by the wayside, I don't think
anyone will have even half that number of CGs after 40 anytime in the
future.

dw





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