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Re: ESPN Headlines - Big Trade



On 29 Nov 2003 05:24:18 GMT Corby Gilmore opened up that worthless piehole and
remarked:

>> Derris Lee's upside is Derrek Lee. Choi's upside is Jim Thome. 
>
>  The same lofty expectations that you put on Hee Sop Choi were also put
>forth on Lyle Overbay and Carlos Pena. 

Pena, yes (not quite as high) Overbay, no. Overbay is what, 27 now? 

Pena is actually in a simalr boat still. .270ish ave and he is a .270/.350/.460
player minimum. 600 PA and he is a 35-40 HR guy.

It hasnt happened yet for either of
>those gentlemen either. Lee was .271/.508/.379 last season in Florida with
>31 homers and 92 rbis. I would expect that .280/.560/.425 is not an
>unreasonable expectation for his first season in Wrigley. 

Neither is .260/.350/.480 (I think a .425 OB is pretty unreasonable; why would
he suddeny add 45 points of OB? How many walks is that? 30ish? and 60 points of
slugging? You have him winning an MVP)

I would not
>expect Choi to do this in Florida especially since he will be backing up
>Jeff Conine, not starting.

What makes you think he is backing up Connie? Connie can play 4 positions, only
one of them is 1b, which they just got someone for (and he didn't play there at
all in Florida)

>   Your argument is a lot like saying that the Schilling trade is a steal for
>Arizona because Casey Fossum's upside is Randy Johnson.

No scout has ever said that though about Fossum. Choi was a top 10 prospect to
most scouts for two or three years. Fossum's upside is "possible, not probable
ace", not "historic ace." Last year (I think) Choi led the minors in HR in bb.
At least leaderboard.

 Obviously, I dont
>believe that of Casey Fossum; I dont agree with your expectations for Hee
>Sop Choi, either.

What do you think Choi will do, and why? 

>                                           Corby Gilmore
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