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Re: Arkansas = Arkinsaw



Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mark Brader wrote:
> 
> > Edgar De Blieck:
> >> > What other place names are there like Arkansas and Kansas, with
> >> > two or more sound elements spelled the same and pronounced differently
> >> > within the same country and in the same language?
> > 
> > Jim Ward:
> >> Worchester and Westchester?
> > 
> > There's also a *correct* example with Worcester, if you look to England.
> > Take Worcester and Leicester on the one hand ("Wooster" and "Lester"),
> 
> Pronunciation is always tricky. "Wooster", to me, looks like it should rhyme 
> with "booster". In the UK, the "Wor" of Worcester is pronounced in the same 
> way as it is in "world".

Here (OK, Norf Lahnden):
Worcester begins with the woo of wood or would
World begins the same as whirl, work, worm etc. 
 
> > and Circencester on the other (pronounced either as spelled or
> > "Sissiter").
> 
> By the way, it's "Cirencester" (no middle c). Pronounced "Sirensesster" by 
> everyone I've ever met who even knew of the place (and I grew up in the 
> same county, just a few miles up the road). I don't recall ever hearing it 
> pronounced "Sissiter".

Concur totally.
The 'cesters' that are, ahem, mispronounced would be ones like
Bicester, Worcester, Towcester, Leicester, Gloucester


> <snip>
> > 
> > Derby in England is pronounced "Darby";
> 
> Right.
> 
> > I forget whether this is the newsgroup where it was recently mentioned
> > that the US contains several places called "Newark", with two or three
> > distinct pronunciations (varying in accentuation and/or rhythm).
> 
> I am given to understand that the old-time residents of Norwich (somewhere 
> in USA - East Coast, I think) pronounce it in the English way - Norr'idge 
> or Norr'itch - but the newcomers (anyone under the age of about 90, I 
> guess) pronounce it "Norr'witch" (with the 'w' audibly in place).

The only correct way to pronounce cush a name would be "narch", of course!

Phil
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