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Re: crate training



BWWHAHAHAHHAHA!!! I do this every day at work. You become accustomed to it.
You distance yourself. You don't let it twist you, otherwise you will be
come old and bitter.

-- 
Thankyou,
                  Nevyn

_________________________________
Nevyn E.D.
Veterinary Nurse & Animal Trainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"You can judge a man's heart by his treatment of animals"
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"The Puppy Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> THAT'S INSANE!
>
> So's this:
>
>
>  I'll be you've never had to put down litters of
>  beautiful labrador puppies? If you had did, maybe
>  you'd be singing a different tune?
>
> "Actually, have held them for the tech to euth, and
> put their bodies in the trash bag and in the freezer
> for the trash company to come and dispose of.
>
> No different tune," ~Emily
>
> You want INSANE???:
>
>   lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
>   For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
>   pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it.
>   When he barks, use the line for a correction.
>
>  - if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
>
>   Lynn K.
>
> > ================
> >
> >>lynn kosmakos      (Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic,
> >>                             depression) will "put down a biter
> >>                             as fast as anyone" yet claims to
> >>                             be a saintly dog rescuer
> >>Lynn K. wrote:
> >>
> >>"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
> >>one shelter.)  But their ability to set their own
> >>schedules and duties causes a great deal of
> >>scheduling overhead.
> >>
> >>And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
> >>volunteers get the meaningful experience that
> >>they work for.
> >>
> >>Someone has to be responsible for that
> >>Volunteer Program, and it is best done
> >>by a non-volunteer."
> >>
> >>Lynn K.
> >>---------------------------------
> >>
> >>"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
> >>every adoptable dog on intake.  I frankly felt that the
> >>effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
> >>older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.
> >>
> >>Should I have refused to groom them?
> >>
> >>Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
> >>had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."
> >>
> >>Lynn K.
> >>--------------------------------------
>
> "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
> Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
> Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
> Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
> The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
> mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
>
>  I'll be you've never had to put down litters of
>  beautiful labrador puppies? If you had did, maybe
>  you'd be singing a different tune?
>
> "Actually, have held them for the tech to euth, and
> put their bodies in the trash bag and in the freezer
> for the trash company to come and dispose of.
>
> No different tune," ~Emily
>
> "I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.  I volunteered
> as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
> for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
> unwanted animals.
>
> This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
> breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
> to that problem," Mustang Sally.
>
>
>  Are those MENTAL CASES, or NOT?
>
>
> Better report to Soup and update your MENTAL ILLNESS
> status. The Puppy Wizard wouldn't wanna push you over
> the goddamned edge and see you HURT YOURSELF
> from EMBARRASSMENT.
>
>  Here's MOORE:
>
> RPD* Mentally Ill AllStaRz as of 7/4/03
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD*
> Mental illness is a public issue in these newsgroups.
>
> People are always running around calling other people
> mentally ill and diagnosing their illnesses. I think it's only
> fair that we have an accurate list of who is and who isn't
> mentally ill, so that we can avoid any misunderstandings
> and promote group harmony.
>
>
> Updated list as of 7/04/2003:
>
>
> list of confirmed or suspected mentally ill (crazy) Regulars
> Most of whom are women or homosexuals
> =======================================
>
> MaryBeth
> MVP (most valuable psycho)
> (super psycho bitch lunatic
> queen of the mentally fucked
> in the head
>
> Has contributed greatly to the annual profit
> results at several large pharmaceutical corps
> has taken virtually every mentally ill (crazy)
> drug treatment in the book, and then some:
> prozac, zoloft, amitryptiline, Buspar, Xanax,
> effexor, paxil, HRT, wellbutrin, tranquilizers,
> clomid, has suffered from or been:
>
> suicidal, agoraphobic, tidal waves of
> PMS, mood swings, turned into a hermit,
> bloated,  just real angry, hubby afraid
> of her, high blood pressure, divorced, "raving
> bitch"
>
> "zoloft zombie" for four years, "living
> through layers and layers of gauze,"
>
> chain smoker, buzzing, weight gain, fatigue,
> terrible dry mouth, dull headaches, fuzzy brain,
> lack of concentration..etc. severe depression,
> severe insomnia,
>
> Panic ALL the time, crying, not sleeping, you
> name  it...etc...
>
>           MaryBeth (on being seriously f'd in the head
>           aka mentally ill) aka cuckoo! kuckoo! ding! ding! ding!
>           aka a superpsychotic bitch from hell
>
>                           "I know for a fact I went thru years of
>                           being overly sensitive, being a b*tch,
>                           being self centered, being self pitying,
>                           you name it, I was a wreck and I ran
>                           over everyone in my path."
>
> "<G> I do know the power of meds, especially
> on a long term basis, and it's not pretty.
>
> You become another person, if it's not
> the correct med for you.
>
>                           --All the best,
>                             MaryBeth
>
>                           "Yup Diane, I am taking Zoloft, and my
>                           Rheumatologist told me that taking
>                           Ultram with it can cause seizures."
>
> "I have all the symptoms.I am suicidal at
> times (cyclical) have severe insomnia,
> 'crawly' skin etc. I have an appt to see
> my doc next Friday to test for menopause."
>
>                             --MaryBeth
>
> "I noticed that antidepressants cut
> libido into the dead zone and I had no real
> emotions, like not laughing at funny stuff,
> couldn't cry either.....except about my suicidal
> thoughts (but at the time I thought there was no
> other way out)."
>
>                             --MaryBeth
>
> "Hi, new to group, just starting Clomid
> today. I talked with RE and pharmacist re:
> zoloft (50 mg daily) and ineraction with Clomid.
> They reported none. Not sure about the prozac
> tho.
>
>   Gonna poat a new message to intorduce myself :)"
>
>  --MaryBeth <still feeling like herself> <G>
>
>  "I wasted about 10 years of my life, and
> lost many many treasured ppl and things.
> Please don't do the same.
> (((((((SCOUT))))))))))
>
>                             --MaryBeth
>
> "Slowly but surely my depression got
> worse and worse. They put me on meds for it, and
> all along kept telling me to wait on the TKR, as
> 'it really wasn't that bad.....yet". HA!"
>
> The depression got so bad, and lots of other things
> happened and my ex and I would up divorced four
> years after our move. It was horrible.
>
> The hardest thing I have ever gone thru"
>
>                              --MaryBeth
>
>
>
> Theresa Willis             (paxil, depression, robot displacement)
>
> shelly couvrette
>
>  OCD, depression, drugs to be named later
>  (familial mental illness, possibly related to
>  family bed) obsessively starves her dogs
>  according to friends, family, strangers and
>  3 different vets, but not herself
>
> lynn kosmakos              (Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic,
>                              depression) will "put down a biter
>                              as fast as anyone" yet claims to
>                              be a saintly dog rescuer
>
> Leah
>
> Effexor for chronic depression, in denial about being
> mentally ill. Has taken several other mentally ill
> medications before settling on effexor for her chronic
> mental problems
>
> Tara Green
>
>  was on antidepressants for a few years
> prior to her marriage. During her
> marriage, she learned a lot:
>
> "With the therapist I saw during my
> marriage I learned that some situational
> depressions are masked as chemical
> simply because of our too human ability
> to prolong the impact of the causal
> situations indefinitely"
>
>      Sounds like more denial, see leah
>
>
> Tara is also a drunk who has also had
> problems with other substances
>
>  TARA on being a drunk/substance abuser:
>
> "Tara (who had some problems with quite a
> few substances as well, but who thinks they
> are separate issues.....so which camp does
> that put me in???)"
>
>  "Believe it or not, some people don't have
>   a problem with drugs even though they are
>   alcoholics. I'm not one of those people, but they do exist."
>
>                                aka, tara has problems with both
>
> Kevin Michael Vail
>
> various mental illness drugs, started with
> zoloft, didn't like that, then went to
> antidepressant, stopped after sufficent
> side effects, now on SSRI and in therapy
>
> Furpaw                    (SSRI, cognitive therapy)
>
> Chris Jung               (Prozac and Welbutrin, cognitive therapy)
>
> Charlie Wilkes
>
> drugged out, crazy, fucked up all his
> life, Christ the shit he's been through
> including psych wards and electroshock
> treatments but now pulling down major
> cash as a business consultant. Triumphing
> over adversity, with a damn good life and a
> well trained dog (very much unlike Leah)
>
> Karen DuChateaux
> aka Karibear
>
> suffered from clinical depression for
> years until some drug or something brought her
> out of it. Some of her best friends "are certifiable"
> and have various degrees of psychoses.
>
> Familial mental disability.
>
> Refuses to say whether or not she is
> currently using drug or cognitive therapy
> for mental illness.
>
> Mike "DumbOxDumb"  Dufort (pending)
>
>  threatened non violent dog expert Jerry Howe
>  with Mike's fully armed US Army Platoon.
>
> Threatened to bring his platoon to Jerry's
> HOWSE. also OCD (obsessed with Jerry's posts)
>
> Jim Sabatke Jim is currently on Effexor which he takes
> because of his depression/mental problems.
>
> Like many of our mental cases, Jim has
> had trouble finding the right med(s) to keep
> him from going kuckoo!! kuckoooo!!! or
> getting the "brain shivers"
>
> From: Jim Sabatke ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Subject: Re: anyone using Effexor?
> alt.support.depression.medication
> Date: 2002-11-29 20:25:16 PST
>
> EFFEXOR
> "I'm on 375 mg/day and it has worked
> wonders for me. The only down side is
> that my blood pressure has elevated
> somewhat; oh and if I miss a dose by a
> couple of hours the "brain shivers" can
> be really bad.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jim"
>
> "I switched from Paxil to Effexor about
> 5 months ago.  I tapered off of the Paxil
> and tapered onto the Effexor at the same
> time."
>
> Jim
>
> "After several years on Effexor IR, my
> pdoc tried switching me to XR.  I
> experienced fairly severe Effexor
> withdrawel until I went back to the IR."
>
> Jim
>
>
> <YOUR NAME GOES HERE>
> (please proudly add your name and the drugs/disorders
> specific to you, if you are also mentally ill). If we all come
> forward, we can help each other with our problems.
>
> Remember, mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of.
>
> It's not your fault if you have a defective brain which
> may cause you to act like an extreme hypocrite and/or
> idiot and/or robot without your being aware of it).
>
> Also, please notify us if you are *not* mentally ill, and
> have been added to this by mistake, so we can make
> our corrections and remove you from the crazy person list.
> -- 
> mental health weekly
> ===========================================
>
> Can you tell the TRUTH from a LIE?:
>
>           > > > Jerome Bigge writes:
>           > > > I do know that hitting, hurting
>           > > > your dog will often make the
>           > > > dog either aggressive or a fear
>           > > > biter, neither of which we want to do.
>
> And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
> This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:
>
>           > > And neither does anyone else,
>           > > Jerome.  No matter
>           > > what Jerry Howe states.
>
> "Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
> Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
> A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
> TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
> 33 Years Experience.
>
> You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
> regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
> Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?
>
> Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who
> commented that his bed time calming technique was quite
> similar?
>
>           > > You're scary Marilyn.
>
>           > > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
>           > > individual.  I feel very sorry for her
>           > > and her family.
>
> "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
> Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
> Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
> Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
> You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
> Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
>
>           > > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
>           > > doubt, please provide a quote (an
>           > > original quote, not from one of Jerry
>           > > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
>           > > shows a regular poster promoting or
>           > > using an abusive form of training.
>
> BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
>
>           > > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.
>
> "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
> Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
> Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
> Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
> The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
> mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
>
> You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
> MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
>
> "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
> A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
> Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
> Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
> Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
>
> You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
> SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
> is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
>
> "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
> Quite Harsh And  Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
> Normal Reaction The First Few  Times It Happens,
> But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
> "Courteous Canine."
>
> You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
> is COURTEOUS?
>
> "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
> your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
> as possible. What  does this mean?"
>
> Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
>
> "When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time,
> spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away.
> The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him
> and continue your normal behavior."
>
> You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
>
>   --Mike Dufort
>     author of the zero selling book
>     "Courteous Canines"
>
> You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?
>
> Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
> suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
>
> Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
>
> "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's
> Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled
> Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her
> Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.
>
> Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
>
>   And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
>   "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
>   something you twisted out of context,
>   because you are full of bizarro manure."
>
>            "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
>            helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
>            Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
>            you to progress to striking them more
>            sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
>            expert trainer.
>
> You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
> a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?
>
>         "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
>         Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
>         With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
>         discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
>
> Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
> their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
> HURT THEIR DOGS?
>
> "John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
> gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
> rump with a training stick while holding him partially
> off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
> to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
>
> The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
> to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
>
> We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
>
>              terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
>             "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
>             things is something you twisted out of
>             context, because you are full of bizarro
>             manure."
>
> Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in
> the chest, step on its toes, throw him down by his ears and
> climb all over it like a raped ape growling into his throat
> and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop it on a pronged spiked
> pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with the heel of
> your palm.
>
> "BethF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leah) wrote in message
> > > news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > >"brianev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
> > > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
> > > > > I find it sick to hear what people
> > > > > do with their dogs.
> > > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
> > > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
> > > > dogs are lies.
> > > > All of it.  Every last bit.
> > > All of it?
> > > Ear pinching?
> > > Shock collars?
> > > Spiked chokers?
> > > The regulars lie more in their denials than
> > > Howe does in his accusing of them.
> :
> > Uh, Frank?  Who do you see denying anything?
> > Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
> > would see denials when everyone has Jerry
> > killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
> > let alone respond to them.
>
> "Rocky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>           > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
>           > > When you compare using sound and
>           > > praise to solve a problem with using
>           > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
>           > >  how can you criticize the use of sound?
>
>           > There's nothing more to be said, then.
>           > You've made up your mind.
>
>           > But you've impressed me by mentioning
>           > that you're a professor with 30 years of
>           > experience.
>
>           >  So, can you cite some examples of
>           > people recommending "shock collars,
>           > hanging, and punishment"?
>
> BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
>
>           > --
>           > --Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.
>
> You think matty's playin with a full
> goddamned deck?
>
> matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
>
> Isn't that true, Marilyn?
>
> Of course not, but THIS IS:
>
> "Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
>  professora gingold.
>
> "Marshall Dermer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>           > >Di,
>
>           > I don't believe you mentioned a particular
>           > kind of training. If you are interested in
>           > training retrieval behavior than do
>           > consider our own Amy Dahl's:
>
>           > The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
>           > Well-Mannered,  Obedient and
>           > Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
>           > Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl
>
> You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
> proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
>
>            "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
>            Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
>            Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
>            Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"
>
> LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
> mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
> a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
> CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.
>
> "I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
> beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
> a good working dog by making them unhapper,
> fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.
>
> DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?
>
>           > just $17.95 at Amazon.com.
>
>           > (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
>           > few regulars here who are either ill-
>           > tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
>           > --Marshall
>
> Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
> STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
> professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
>
> amy lying frosty dahl continues:
>
>            "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
>            we have trained require much more
>            frequent and heavy application of pressure
>           (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,
>
>           This is continued resistance to your
>           increasing authority, and the job is
>           not done until it is  overcome
>
>           Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
>           wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
>           less tractable dogs may require you to
>           progress to striking them more sharply"
>
> BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...
>
>          "Try pinching the ear between the metal
>          casing and the collar,  even the buckle on
>          the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
>         give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
>         direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"
>
> OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.
>
>            "You can press the dog's ear with a
>            shotshell instead of your thumb even
>            get a studded collar and pinch the ear
>           against that Make the dog's need to stop
>           the pinching so urgent that resisting your
>           will fades in importance.
>
>            CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
>            Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
>            using the stick and no ear pinch.
>
>           When the dog is digging out to beat the
>           stick and seems totally reliable without
>           any ear pinch, you are finished
>
>            This is continued resistance to your
>            increasing authority, and the job is
>            not done until it is overcome"
>
>           If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
>           under the chin, say "No! Hold!"
>
>            (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
>            because the ear is getting tender, or the
>            dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
>            frosty dahl.
>
>            "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
>             professora gingold.
>
> From: Marshall Dermer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>           >> -snip headers etc.
>
>           >> Yes. you're right, I really should find
>           >> the book.. they don't have these books
>           >> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
>           >> do you find Koehler?
>
>           > I got a nice large print copy from
>           > Amazon.com
>
>           >Richard
>
>             Please try Powell's Books in Portland
>             Oregon. Their URL is:
>
>                               http://www.powells.com/
>
>             Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
>             new and used books on its shelves. You
>             can order books via e-email.
>
>                                Koehler Method Of Dog
>                                Training
>                                by Koehler, W R
>                                Published by HOWELL BOOK
>                                HOUSE (0876056575,
>
> ========================================================
>
> Here's some quotes and some methods right outta your
> koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream
> "NO!" into its face for 5  seconds:"
>
> "The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962).  New York:
>            Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."
>
>            Hanging
>
> "First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
> and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
> or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could
> cause.  Then he starts to work the dog deliberately
> and fairly to the point where the dog makes his grab.
>
> Before the teeth have reached their target,
> the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
> the ground.
>
> As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned
> problems the dog is suspended in mid-air.
>
>            However, to let the biting dog recover
>            his footing while he still had the strength
>            to renew the attack would be cruelty.
>
>           The only justifiable course is to hold him
>           suspended until he has neither the strength
>           nor inclination to renew the fight.
>
>           When finally it is obvious that he is
>           physically incapable of expressing his
>           resentment and is lowered to the ground,
>          he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
>          few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
>          over on his side.
>
>          The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
>          on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
>          let it alarm you
>
>            THE REAL "HOOD"
>
>            "If your dog is a real "hood" who would
>            regard the foregoing types of protest as
>           "kid stuff" and would express his
>           resentment of your efforts by biting,
>           your problem is difficult -- and pressing.
>
>            "Professional trainers often get these
>            extreme problems. Nearly always the
>            "protest biter" is the handiwork of a
>            person who, by avoiding situations that
>            the dog might resent, has nurtured the
>            seeds of rebellion and then  cultivated
>           the resultant growth with under correction.
>
>            When these people reap their inevitable
>            and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
>            ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
>            trainer" whose advice they may have
>            once rejected because it was incompatible
>            with the sugary droolings of mealy-
>           mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
>           and dog psychologists who, by the
>           broken skins and broken hearts their
>          misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
>          of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
>          since the dawn of time.
>
>          "With more genuine compassion for the
>          biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
>          by those who are "too kind" to make a
>          correction and certainly with more disregard
>          for his safety, the professional trainer
>          morally feels obligated to perform a "major
>          operation."
>
>           "Since we are presently concerned with
>           the dog that bites in resentment of the
>           demands of training, we will set our
>           example in that situation.  (In a later
>           chapter we will deal with the with the
>           much easier problem of the dog that
>           bites someone other than his master."
>
> Are we havin FUN yet?
>
> Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
>
> The Puppy Wizard. <} : ~  )   >
>
> "Emily Carroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > "Diane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > My 15 week old pup, is still having a little bit of trouble
> dealing with
> > her
> > > crate.  She is beside me at night in her crate, so that is not
> a problem.
> > > It's when I get up in the morning.  We are up early and I feed
> her, let
> > her
> > > out and play with her for a bit.  Then I have to put her back
> in her crate
> > > while I take a shower and get ready for work.  This is when
> she screams.
> > At
> > > puppy school they said to fill her kong, etc.  Well, I've
> tried this and
> > it
> > > only keeps her attention for a little bit.  I thought she
> would have
> > > outgrown this by now.  My last dog loved her crate and would
> go in it all
> > > the time.  Any suggestions would be great.  Thanks.
> > >
> >
> > Make sure you *never* remove her from the crate while she's
> screaming.
> > Don't even acknowledge her presence.  Besides that, there isn't
> much to be
> > done until she's a bit older and knows better.
> > --
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