Re: Turtle Lake sold....again! (was Re: Haulover Beach

While I don't have time to respond to Rick right now (gotta get sleep), I can tell 
*you*
that there are some/many clubs (coop clubs) that do not have a "profit motive".  Sure,
they don't want
to go into the hole, and they would like to maintain their facilities, but "profit"
(meaning
return on investment) isn't what they are after.  They simply want to maintain a place
to practice
their expressive association (nudism or family nudism) without getting arrested, and
without having to endure the kinds of creeps that public venues attract.

Again, if the Boy Scouts (a MAJOR national organization that licenses clothing,
supplies,
etc., and that has a zillion camp facilities) can be considered an expressive
association, with
the right to discriminate based on religion and sexual orientation, what's the chance a
private
membership-only family nudist club/camp with delineated (but discriminatory) membership
standards
wouldn't have similar rights?

But I'm still waiting for a club to say either:

1.  We are a "public accommodation" for the purposes of nondiscrimation laws.
or
2.  We are a "private membership-only club" for the purposes of the nondiscrimination
laws.

They can't be both  (not at the same time, anyway).
Too many "clubs" want to have their cake and eat it too.


"Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> NF...you are either very naive or very, very dense.....but thanks for taking
> up Jonzee's slack....I'm sure glad that the profit motive is unimportant to
> you......hmmmmm...but then again, you don't have an "investment"....(other
> than selfish bigotry)
>
> You need a different lifestyle--nudism is most definitely NOT for you.....