Re: Phish Content - Come on everybody...

well, well

since this thread got so pussified, i thought i should chime back in.

here's the thing about "phamily" and all that other horseshit.

i think it is pretty important to be kind to people, of all walks, and in
all places - in fact, i think i probably place that characteristic in pretty
high esteem.

however - and rather than have everyone react in a knee-jerk way - the point
i was trying to make is that personal responsibility is a pretty important
thing, and if someone chooses to opt out of having/using any, i don't feel
that it is my problem to help them...nor should it be an expectation.

now, if i see some 17 year old who is really drunk, i'll help him all i can,
because he may not have had the perspective to understand what he was
getting into. shit, at setbreak last night, i even stopped a guy and helped
him find his section because he was so fucked he couldn't get a handle on
the numbers...

but when it comes to some fucking idiot tour rat or trust fund asshole who
decided to swing for the fences one way or the other...i say let him swing.

now, i am a registered democrat, and am campaigning hard for a certain
presidential hopeful, and loathe the current administration...and i have
been to a pretty large number of jam shows, phish the most of course.

that having been said, i don't think you can place a political affiliation
on my emphasis of personal responsibility. i am sure everyone has had that
wasted asshole near them who spills/pukes/falls on them because they are too
fucked up...or who creates a scene of some sort, or talks too loud - or is
just generally a nuisance because they crossed the line...when i think of
these people, i feel much disgust/little empathy.

and while i have been known to indulge - and yes, i did go too far one
night - at an mmw show in ithaca '99...i went off into a corner and put my
head on my knees until i came back around...i have no problem with people
doing that...but don't look to me to be your fucking mommy just because you
HAD to score some molly for the show.

ok?


"repugula12" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I think this a really great thought and I like to think that I would
> help someone if I saw someone in need, but I feel as if it can't always
> work this way. I know this is probably wrong of me to admit, but when i
> see people (especially youngish kids) that are wasted before the show
> even starts and they just keep smoking or whatever I have a hard time
> feeling bad for them. I don't smoke so I can't accurately comment on
> that, but I do drink and even when I get really drunk I know when I
> should stop. If people paid a little more attention to their bodies they
> wouldnt get to the point of being incapacitated and helpless.
> Nevertheless, I am inspired by your post and will try to stop being so
> cynical:-)
>
> ~Melissa (one more class and then heading downtown for the show!!!)~
>
> Brian J Berkowitz wrote:
> > ...you gotta help out those spun kids.  If kids are falling...give them
a
> > hand up, maybe a sip of water.  If they are getting chased out of the
aisles
> > and are clearly oblivious...pull them into your row.  Most of us have
been
> > this person at one time or another, or at least have a friend that was.
So
> > do onto these kids as you would like to be done onto you and those you
love.
> >
> > When I was in Philly my brother and I each caught two spun kids that
were
> > going down the steps, but we were the only helping hands I saw all
evening.
> > I saw a bunch of kids go down that were just too far away for me to be
able
> > to help out.  I can remember back in 1995 at Hershey, I was a little
> > gone...and I went down, but a half a dozen pairs of hands were helping
me up
> > and into a seat.  The next thing I knew I had been handed a bottle of
water,
> > and a very nice girl was making sure I didn't hit my head.  Of course
that
> > was when I used to feel like I belonged to an actual community, now I
just
> > feel like I am going to a concert.
> >
> > So come on guys, help those spun kids out when you can.  The next time
it
> > could be you or your brother that needs a hand.
> >
> > cheers
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
>