Re: A followup to"I'll take my chances".

"REInvestments" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> "Ice Queen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > "Gunluvver2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >
> > > Let the cops take care of the "bad guys". How many times have you heard
>  if
>  you
> > > are ever in a holdup or mugging, "don't resist. Give them what they
>  want"?
>  We
> > > have been conditioned in the past 40 years to give in to airplane
>  hijackers.
> > > Don't try to do anything. Let the hijackers have their way. IMO that
>  attitude
> > > was the reason the hijackers were successful on 9/11/2001.
> >
> >   How can people take over airplanes with *boxcutters*!!!! Well, all you
> > have to do, apparently, is tell them you've got explosives strapped to
>  you,
> > and for some reason, people think that if they comply the explosives
>  *won't*
> > go off... Jeez, I read the news enough to know that's a wishful fantasy.
> >
> > But regardless, the realistic parallel is to rape. Statistics show that
> > women who fight their attackers manage to avoid being raped more than
>  women
> > who crumble under the "just go along with it" mentality. To be sure, when
>  a
> > woman is being raped, I support whatever decision she makes to survive the
> > ordeal, but stark reason suggests that victimizers pick weak victims, and
> > abandon them when they put up a fight. And, at any rate, I personally feel
> > it's probably better to die resisting than survive by capitualting .
> 
> It's been a lot of years (almost 3 decades) since I helped teach a woman's
> defense class, and I don't even know if you can find the old style hat pins
> with the big, pearl looking handle.   In the old days, I suggested keeping
> one of those on the outside of your purse, and if attacked, putting it
> through the eyeball of your attacker  (or without a pin, run your hand along
> the face of the attacker with your thumb extended until it enters the eye
> socket, then close your hand and pull, then run).   No one that took the
> classes was ever attacked...... and I wonder just a bit whether the attitude
> of being willing to commit mayhem to protect one's self get's carried into a
> person's walk or demeanor,  thereby shielding them from being the proper
> profile for a rapist.     These days, technology has advanced  (tasers,
> pepper spray, skunk vials), but I think wearing an attitude is still pretty
> much the same.    You can die either way,  but shock, damage, and escape,
> seems better than capitulation if one can train enough not to freeze when
> under attack.

I had similar experience before/after taking martial arts classes.  I
_really_ wanted to try out my skills on some hapless attacker, only to
find that they weren't interested in attacking me any more...