Re: [LSJ] Sunset Strip

On 3 Dec 2003 03:40:28 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kamel
SENNI) scrawled:

>LSJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> salem wrote:
>> > How early can you tap Sunset Strip to reduce the cost of a mortal ally
>> > by 1?
>> > 
>> > for example:
>> > cicatriz has 1 blood. it wants to get a courier. you can't attempt an
>> > action you can't afford. cicatriz can't afford the courier. but can
>> > you tap the sunset strip as you announce the action, or something, to
>> > be able to attempt (and then succeed at, as the cost is 1 less) the
>> > action?
>> 
>> Yes. The most frequent example of this effect is Masochism, but Succulent
>> Vitae and then Soul of the Earth are a distant second and third, I imagine.
>> 
>> Similarly, a vampire who had played Inner Essence could use the effect
>> to reduce the cost of a combat card down to something he could afford
>> to pay.
>> 
>> Jack (Torrance Circle) works the same way, but isn't really interesting
>> since if he reduction allowed you to play the card that you couldn't
>> otherwise play, you'd still be ousted by playing the card (since the
>> reduction of one would just mean that you would pay all your pool
>> instead of more than all of your pool).
>
>I'm not sure to understand that example :
>If i'm at one pool, and i want to play communal haven cathedral
>(location that cost one pool, but alamut, elder library, market
>square, mausoleum, labyrinth etc, are the same case)), can i tap jack
>to pay 0, and put the cathedral into play ?
>Is there a rule that you cannot play a master, when the cost of this
>master ousts you ?
>KS.

the example is: say you are at 1 pool, and you want to play a hunting
ground (2 pool). normally you wouldn't be allowed to even try and play
the card as you can't afford it's cost.

however, with jack, you can reduce it's cost by 1, thus allowing you
to play it for 1 pool. and you're out. 

if, after Jack's reduction, you could afford to play a location and
still be in the game, you would have been able to afford it even
without jack, and thus wouldn't need to 'pre-empt' the playing of the
card with jack's ability to be able to legally play the card.

so it's not a very useful example. although i feel it is interesting.

salem
domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm