Re: Vox Senis and Sudden Reversal

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:29:44 -0500, LSJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
scrawled:

>Dieter wrote:
>> Vox Senis
>> Unique Master
>> Put this card in play. Each Methuselah gets 1 additional vote during
>> each referendum. Alternatively during a referendum, you may
>> !!DISCARD!!
>> this card from your hand as an out-of-turn master to gain 3 votes in
>> that referendum.
>> 
>> Sudden Reversal 
>> Master: out-of-turn.
>> Burn a master card !!played!! by another Methuselah as that card is
>> played. That card has no effect (no cost is paid).
>> 
>> The question that came up in the german vekn forum is this:
>> 
>> Can you cancel an OOT "discarded" Vox Senis by a Sudden Reversal?
>> Two opnions are:
>> 
>> a) No, 'cause the card is not played and therefore can't be burned by
>> a Sudden.
>> 
>> b) Yes, 'cause the word "discard" was only choosen to avoid
>> misunderstandings regarding the uniqueness of Vox Senis and doesn't
>> change the fact that it is still used as an OOT Master Card.
>> 
>> Since both points of view sound logically correct a statement from LSJ
>> would be great.
>> 
>> btw. my guess is b)
>
>b).

so can someone Sudden Reversal a master card discarded to fail Chas
Giovanni Tello's action? :/

can someone Sudden Reversal the two masters discarded as Master out of
Turn to burn Tension in the Ranks?

Can someone Sudden Reversal the master card discarded as an oot to
steal the Brothers Grimm?

salem
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