Re: Game programming in Java ??

> > > I've also profiled raw number crunching (floating point and integer
> > > maths, array thrashing) in Java and VC++ and found the performance to be
> > > very similar (for those tests, Java was about 80-105% the speed of C).
> > > That means that unless you code very badly, there's no reason that your
> > > game logic should go slow in Java.
> >
> > Sounds too good to be true. And what kind of Java programming tools were you
> > using? Compiled or JIT interpreted Java?
>
>
> I'd also question this--un-JITted Java is almost always slower than
> compiled C++.

un-JITed code, yes, but how many JVMs do not JIT the code?

The results shouldn't be suprising - the code is compiled on the fly and 
artithmetic and array processing are usually pretty simply things to 
apply sensible optimisations to.

> I don't know what kind of games you create, but they may be totally
> inappropriate for Java, so your stance may be based on your games'
> genre. But Java is perfectly suitable for some types of game
> development--even some 3D games. But if you, say, develop FPS's or
> strategy games with super heavy-duty AI, C++ may be the only way to
> go. But don't assume that Java is inappropriate for ALL TYPES of game
> development.
>
> Personally, I usually develop in C++ (okay, and C and C#), but I did
> develop games professionaly in Java for a while. Most Java IDE's suck
> compared to C++ ones, 

Have you tried Eclipse?  It really is awfully good (and free).