Re: Dora after Kan

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 01:33:42 -0500, Nath Krishmaratala
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In Modern Japanese Rules, what is the right steps when declaring a KAN?
>
>Is it :
>
>1. Annoucing "KAN"
>2. Showing the three already collected tiles
>3. Pick up a supplementary tile from the Dora heap
>4. Discarding one's hand tile
>5. Turning over a additionnal Dora indicator
>6. Reconstruct the Dora heap with tiles from the end of the wall
>
>or
>
>1-2-3-5-6-4 ?

I presume by 'Dora heap' you mean the kong box, iow the Dead end of
the wall.

According to me, there are two possible answers to your question.

a) when declaring a melded kong it is indeed 1-2-3-4-5-6:
- announcing kong
- showing the three collected tiles
- melding them together with the claimed tile
- picking an addictional tile from the wall (Kong box, your Dora heap)
- discarding a tile
- turning an additional dora tile (kan dora tile)
- the 'reconstruction' is not really done, we just watch that 14 tiles
are left in the dead end of the wall

b) when announcing a concealed kong, iow you have just picked up the
fourth tile from the wall and you want to use it for a kong. (Perhaps
you have had these four tiles for some time, but this does not
matter), it is 1-2-3-5-4-6 (or 1-2-3-5-6-4):
- announcing kong
- showing the four tiles that form a kong, in such a way that the
other players can see that this is a concealed kong, i.e. by turning
one or two of the tiles face down
- picking up a tile from the kong box
- turning an additional dora tile (kan dora tile)
- discarding a tile
- your 'reconstruction'.

The difference is: when announcing a concealed kong, you do not have
to decide which tile to discard unless you have seen the kan dora
tile.


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