Re: Diplomacy clumps

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> >That is the normal state of affairs, someone like Balchoth who was
> >very clever at deceiving me may have duped the clump members
> >into believing I was the bad guy. I meant what I said earlier about
> >Balchoth as some kind of a compliment, they fooled me very badly
> >like excellent Diplomacy players have fooled me on occasion.

Normally I stay out of arguments like this...but you (Tom) are speaking
from ignorance and leveling insults at my character.

The update prior to our joint ops in Wainriders alot happened. Balchoth
was secretly allied with Rohan. Rohan got wind out my pending doom from the
North, armies from Dale and Rhun intending my destruction. The reason for
this was
Balchoth had taken some Dorwinion sectors when warned not to by Rhun.
Rohan's initial warning of invasion from North was given about 2 hours prior
to update.
The final 60 minutes prior to update I actually spent 'on the phone' first
with co-ruler
from Rohan then with co-ruler from Rhun, negotiating the survival of
Balchoth.
    I told Mordor after the update that Balchoth could no longer help in ops
against
Wainriders.  At the time Balchoth and Mordor had a 2update + 2 hour NA and
were
posted as friendly in relations. Did Balchoth tell Mordor everything that
went on, no, but
we were not required to do so, we were not allied. I did tell you that
Balchoth had ceded
some sectors to Rhun.
    All this happened like a whirlwind just prior to the update of ops
against Wainriders.
Balchoth did not intentionally trick you in any way, and informed you in a
timely manner
of needed pull out from Wain ops.

     I have always played the diplomacy 'game' with honesty first speckled
with some deception.
The deception part being, never give full disclosure to other countries of
your intel, unless
allied with said countries.

    I also did not receive any warning from you regarding you attack on
Balchoth
mountain sectors. You did so in violation of my trust as stated in our NA.

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> As I noted before, you seem to think Balchoth losing 150 sectors was
> some sort of evil plot aimed at sticking a knife in your back. Do you
> honestly think Balchoth WILLING gave up those sectors???? Are you
> that paranoid to believe someone would be able to give up 150
> sectors just to trick you?

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> >(maybe still is, I dunno) saying that I sure stirred up a hornet's nest
> >by attacking Balchoth. But after Balchoth tricked me in a very
> >clever way, I warned him several updates ahead of time that I was
> >going to attack the mountains, to give them time to prepare their
> >defenses.
>
> No Tom, you broke the NA. Plain and simple. In fact, in an earlier
> post you said you had decided quite some time ago not to honor NAs.
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