Re: Request For Comments...

Blah, the problem is the candy-ass deity of this game didn't lay out the
winning rules beforehand, and thus got porked by a gang-bang win
declaration.

Hi Geoff!!! ;)

-- Steve
a.k.a. Ionica

"Mr. Ed" wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> "Mark Stokje" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > Another completely different issue here. I've said this before, but I'll
> ...
> > but I am shock, stunned, and absolutely amazed that over 10% of the
> starting
> > nations in a game can declare a victory and there is hardly a peep from
> the
> > players. When I read that victory declaration, I expected moral outrage,
> 
> I heartily agree with your sentiment -- it was pretty galling to me as well.
> My CUNTS commentary, while sarcastic in nature was, in truth, pretty
> precise in how I felt.  I find it interesting that I was berated more for
> whinging about the size of the winning group than people were for, oh say,
> taking advantage of "accidental" updates to glean intelligence on enemies.
> 
> In fact, I fully expected Mithrilien to bounce this "alliance" back in
> disgust
> over the fact that *20%* of the starting nations declare victory (Yes,
> 10% were the "principals" and the other 10% were the "honoraries" but
> the point is the same).  I couldn't imagine that this was what he conceived
> or anticipated when putting together LOTR.
> 
> > I truely found this to be the most disapointing aspect of Empire to date.
> 
> And that's definitely a worry.  For new players to experience this level
> of disappointment after significant investment of effort, well....  However,
> I think most people will jump on you and simply say that "If you don't
> like it, you should only join a game that has victory conditions which will
> make you happy defined before hand".
> 
> > And even as a newbie, I'm forced to ask myself, Why did this happen?
> > Are we all to friendly? Too many unbreakable NA's? is waging large
> > scale war to time consuming? At some point do countries get so large
> > that they stalemate if they fight? What's the answer, why don't these
> > four nations go for all the glory?
> 
> There's a whole barrel of entertaining responses I could make... instead
> I'll refrain and let Markus, Plundaria, Byz, Rook, Mongol, Whabit, Ice, Ski
> and the other 4-6 players involved in ACNE respond.
> 
> My personal solution?  Middle Earth nukes. ;)
> 
> Mr. Ed